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Old August 27th, 2015, 01:42 AM   #32521
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Yeah. Sponge Bob gets a massive statue in Istanbul. More of this please!

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/his...&NewsCatID=341

"Historic castle in Istanbul turns into ‘SpongeBob’ after restoration"

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Old August 28th, 2015, 12:10 AM   #32522
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And worst, now it doesn't look like it's an historic castle...

I don't realy understand why they didn't let it like how it was....
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Old August 28th, 2015, 01:20 AM   #32523
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Old August 28th, 2015, 06:39 PM   #32524
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maybe you're right. i took the train on that route some 2 years ago. it's always exhausting because of uncomfortable trains.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 06:49 PM   #32525
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maybe you're right. i took the train on that route some 2 years ago. it's always exhausting because of uncomfortable trains.
Train comfort is always important. If the train is not overcrowded and the ride is smooth - it is pleasure to travel. It feels like you are flying.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 07:03 PM   #32526
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Train comfort is always important. If the train is not overcrowded and the ride is smooth - it is pleasure to travel. It feels like you are flying.
i agree, but here in my city we have only local railroad, and short distance trains. however, ride to Zagreb lasts more than 1,5 h and it is not pleasure anymore.
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Old August 28th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #32527
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i agree, but here in my city we have only local railroad, and short distance trains. however, ride to Zagreb lasts more than 1,5 h and it is not pleasure anymore.
How much does it take to Zagreb by car? Does a lot of people work in Zagreb from Bjelovar? It seems to be in its catchment araa.

We have similar situation in Slovakia in connection between Bratislava and Nitra (sixth city by population). It is connected by motorway, but the main railway tracks goes outside the city. You can make it in 60 minutes by car, but it is horrible by train. Besides it is not connected directly, it is served by old local trains (see picture). The seats are uncomfortable, the train is noisy, it stops at every stop, the track is in bad condition. I've tried it several times and it took 2 hours.

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Old August 28th, 2015, 08:22 PM   #32528
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I haven't traveled by train or bus for years, but I cycle to work every day as it is less than 3 km away with no traffic lights.

Dutch trains are fast and with high frequency even on minor lines, but the overall travel time is just uncompetitive compared to driving. Overall travel times go up dramatically if your destination or origin isn't near a train station. About 90% of the trips in the Netherlands are on a route with a large difference in travel time between a car and public transport. In fact in many cities cycling is faster and more convenient than using the bus or tram system. Dutch cities are generally quite compact so distances within cities tend to be short and cycleable (is that a word?)
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How much does it take to Zagreb by car? Does a lot of people work in Zagreb from Bjelovar? It seems to be in its catchment araa.

We have similar situation in Slovakia in connection between Bratislava and Nitra (sixth city by population). It is connected by motorway, but the main railway tracks goes outside the city. You can make it in 60 minutes by car, but it is horrible by train. Besides it is not connected directly, it is served by old local trains (see picture). The seats are uncomfortable, the train is noisy, it stops at every stop, the track is in bad condition. I've tried it several times and it took 2 hours.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2735/4...75929fde2f.jpg
by car 1h to the eastern suburb. 8 trains per day to Zagreb, fastest take 1h26, slowest 1h49. actually, it is not that bad considering the time, but it is uncomfortable and annoying as hell. the rolling stock is similar shit as that one in Nitra:



there are quite some people working in Zagreb, that's probably the main reason why new railroad is going to be built. (the fastest trains are those that arrive to Zagreb early in the morning, and leave afternoon, so called "work trains".)

however, the rolling stock for local and regional trains is being modernized, so i really hope that we will get this new train when new railroad will be finished, because that crap taht we have now isn't worth of new railroad.

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I haven't traveled by train or bus for years, but I cycle to work every day as it is less than 3 km away with no traffic lights.

Dutch trains are fast and with high frequency even on minor lines, but the overall travel time is just uncompetitive compared to driving.
Travel time is not everything. It takes me 40 min-1h by train /bus to get to work, and only 30 min by car, but I still prefer local public transport. It's cheaper, less dangerous and I can relax and read a book instead of yelling constantly at other drivers.
Cycling in this case is hardly an option: it's too far (9 km), too dangerous (no cycle path) and I don't won't to arrive at work all sweaty.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 11:22 AM   #32531
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Travel time is not everything. It takes me 40 min-1h by train /bus to get to work, and only 30 min by car, but I still prefer local public transport. It's cheaper, less dangerous and I can relax and read a book instead of yelling constantly at other drivers.
Cycling in this case is hardly an option: it's too far (9 km), too dangerous (no cycle path) and I don't won't to arrive at work all sweaty.
Also, if you compare not only travel time, but include time taken by looking for free parking places, individual transport is more comparable to public one.

According to timetable it took me 11 minutes of travel by trolleybus. It is approximately half by car. Once I tried to go to work by car. Did six rounds around the neighbourhood of my office looking for a free parking place and then decided to park on the nearest free-of-charge parking lot. Realized it was the parking lot beside my house It took me circa 35 minutes and I had to take the whole trolleybus route (+11 minutes) anyway.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 01:07 PM   #32532
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Also, if you compare not only travel time, but include time taken by looking for free parking places, individual transport is more comparable to public one.

According to timetable it took me 11 minutes of travel by trolleybus. It is approximately half by car. Once I tried to go to work by car. Did six rounds around the neighbourhood of my office looking for a free parking place and then decided to park on the nearest free-of-charge parking lot. Realized it was the parking lot beside my house It took me circa 35 minutes and I had to take the whole trolleybus route (+11 minutes) anyway.


Any way, a typical, and very usual city problem. However, a vast majority of all travels nation-wide have nothing to do with city centers. And Chris is from a country where a large part of working places are located in the outskirts of cities, unlike in Bratislava, and many European cities where they are located in city centers.
And that's why the modal share of public transport on a national level is in every European nations under 20%, in most of them under 10%.
Public transport in the countryside has no chances. Children, elderly people (unable to drive a car) and some very poor people will take it, but no one else. And although we talk about heavy urbanization in Europe (and nowadays suburbanization which is even worse) the majority of population travel only occasionally to city centers.
The modal share of public transport is quite high in big cities, in Paris, London, Frankfurt/M or even Madrid public transport has a higher modal share than car. But it's only a minor part of Europe.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 06:42 PM   #32533
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Travel time is not everything. It takes me 40 min-1h by train /bus to get to work, and only 30 min by car, but I still prefer local public transport. It's cheaper, less dangerous and I can relax and read a book instead of yelling constantly at other drivers.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 10:38 PM   #32534
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I thought exactly the same
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Old August 29th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #32535
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This afternoon I've driven (barely) into France. Now I can say I've driven outside Spain .
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Old August 30th, 2015, 02:25 PM   #32536
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First picture of a motorway roadside rest area taken from the heights of a mountain:



More pictures you can find on the Austrian roads thread.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 04:30 PM   #32537
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Travel time is not everything. It takes me 40 min-1h by train /bus to get to work, and only 30 min by car, but I still prefer local public transport. It's cheaper, less dangerous and I can relax and read a book instead of yelling constantly at other drivers.
Cycling in this case is hardly an option: it's too far (9 km), too dangerous (no cycle path) and I don't won't to arrive at work all sweaty.
I would guess that in most cases the decision making case is more complex than optimizing the travel time only.

This is my daily framework to optimize:

- Two adults, one car
- Distances to work 10 and 18 kilometers
- No end-to-end public transport connections
- Poor bus-to-train connections at the key hub
- Time of first and last meeting of the day
- Any out-of-office meetings during the day?
- No grocery shop close to home
- Evening activities
- Leaving for or returning from countryside home
- etc

Earlier, the framework was more complex due to moving kids between home, day care, school and their activities. Nowadays they are self-moving.
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Who uses the Skyscrapercity app? I can't load the Highways & Autobahns forum via the app. It keeps loading until a server error pops up. I tried to uninstall and reinstall it, but it doesn't help. I can open other sub forums without any problems.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #32539
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I have the exact same issue. All the other sub-forums work just fine but Highways & Autobahns always fails to load.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 10:52 PM   #32540
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I uninstalled the app long ago for this reason. I use the Web-based version also from mobile
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