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Old January 17th, 2016, 06:53 PM   #33221
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Your One of your summer trips?
I'm planning a 2 week trip across Norway.
It would involve a lot of plane hopping, but I also want to rent a car and driving on the Geiranger, Trollstigen and the Atlantic road. I'm also considering doing a drive on the Lofoten peninsula, but renting cars is kind of expensive in Norway.

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I don't like it. You can't plan routes for the summer season now.

edit: it seems that it is possible to plan routes across mountain passes with season closure, if you force it to route across.
Doesn't seem to work for me, it only routes up to a point and not after that. Look at my post below.
The only thing I managed to do is to change the departure date for summer and then it worked. But I can't add intermediate stops if I use this option. Bing doesn't seem to "close" roads in winter.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:00 PM   #33222
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Thanks for that!
I was wondering why Maps routes slower, for example here and here
If you're planning to de a road trip into Norway this summer, it's great, I went there 2 years ago, such nice landscapes and nice country, but don't expect to travel fast on these roads, the limitations are very low and the geography don't make possible the building of "fast" roads.... (but I haven't seen any cop on the roads during my 2 weeks of travel on norther Norway, roads are better and it's easierto go faster... ).

Here is an aproximative map of what I've done :



I've visited Oslo (very nice), then I went to Bergen (with a stop in a city that I don't remember), the night after I took an isolated and charming hotel close to Bergen, on Osteroy (an island). Bergen was ok but the rainy weather didn't helped... After this, I went to Flam which was great, but I didn't took the overcrowned train like every tourist done, I took a small charming road that was going near the train and I found some georgeous little waterfalls with no other people arround... Then I went trough Lćrdalstunnelen (the world longest road tunnel in the world, the is 3 "rest area" on it ! and then went to Skjolden for the night and saw probably the most beautifull water on a fjord, the water was turquoise, so nice. And then I went through the mountain with road 55 (the highest road of northern Europe if I remember well.., there was still some snow...) and then traveled to Molde with 2 nights stops, and I've visited some very nice fjords (Geiranger of course and some smaller that were georgous too) and went trough the "trolls road". After Molde I went through the atlantic road, a gorgeous road with spectacular bridges in front of the ocean... and then I went to Trondheim, for me, probably the most beautifull norvegian city, and even if the nice weather at the moment helped a lot to enjoy the city, it's very beautifull ! Then I drive during all the next day to Bodo to take the ferry to the Lofoten islands the next day. On Lofoten islands, the weather was capricious but the landscape was stunning, except the weather, I could believe that I was on a caribean island This was the biggest regret of my trip, I should have stayed at least 2 or 3 days on Lofoten islands, it deserve it!
I avoided the North cap because it was very far (11 hours of road just to reach it) and the landscape on the road was not interesting, at least this is what I read on internet...
Then I went to Stockholm by going throught Sweden. The only really interesting thing was the fact that even in the middle of the summer it's not completly dark during the night The landscape was boring as hell, this is where I regretted Norway In Sweden the most interesting parts are Stockholm, Malmo and the southern coast, especially on the north of Malmo, i found some good looking cities and the weather was hot
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:01 PM   #33223
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I don't like it. You can't plan routes for the summer season now.

edit: it seems that it is possible to plan routes across mountain passes with season closure, if you force it to route across.
But most times Google Maps is used either during the trip (using your smartphone as GPS units) or few days before (at home, to plan the trip). So, it's better if it doesn't route you through closed roads, considering that some idiots would then require an expensive rescue operation to have their car towed away from the snowy road (it has happened before).
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:06 PM   #33224
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One thing shouldn't rule out the other. I don't like the 'one size fits all' approach many large software and internet companies use. The internet is big, even if only 5% uses a service differently you're still talking about large numbers.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:06 PM   #33225
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Mine has already broken the 100,000 line in both units. In km also the 200,000 line is gone.
I actually crossed 200 000 miles in my car a couple months ago


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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:07 PM   #33226
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I'm planning a 2 week trip across Norway.
It would involve a lot of plane hopping, but I also want to rent a car and driving on the Geiranger, Trollstigen and the Atlantic road. I'm also considering doing a drive on the Lofoten peninsula, but renting cars is kind of expensive in Norway.
How nice!

No, you should do it by car, and if you can't aford to rent a car, just do like me, go with your car!! I traveled from France to Norway and go back with my car, it was nice, and probably less stressfull than having to handle a lot of flights, and you can bring all your stuff, and most important, you can bring a lot of food or buy your food in Sweden because, even the basic food is over-overpriced in Norway!!!!

Also bringing some bed sheets and stuff like that will allow you to sleep on some cottages on place where there is no hotels available (and cottages cost way way less than hotels that are also too expensive in Norway ), that's what we've done because of the very few hotels available and the tremendous prices on some places (like 130-150€ for 3 people for example)
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:12 PM   #33227
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just get a car like this
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:15 PM   #33228
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I actually crossed 200 000 miles in my car a couple months ago
I though that cars used km in Canada, as metric system is official there.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:23 PM   #33229
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That is right, new cars sold in Canada since 1977 have km speedometer and odometer by law
but I bought that (made in Finland) car in the USA and imported it back privately
My other car (Canadian specification) has metric instruments only
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:39 PM   #33230
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That is right, new cars sold in Canada since 1977 have km speedometer and odometer by law
but I bought that (made in Finland) car in the USA and imported it back privately
My other car (Canadian specification) has metric instruments only
The last time this came up, I thought someone said cars sold in Canada showed both systems, with metric more prominent. (Just like cars sold in the U.S. show both systems, "customary" more prominent.) Plenty of Canadians cross the border, so it would actually be useful.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:42 PM   #33231
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Usually the speedometer is set up that way, definitely on American and Japanese cars for sure
European car often just uses km/h only (the same physical part as the EU models) but sometimes the dual scale also.

Some late model GM's had a single-scale speedometer but a button that would change it from km/h to mph. The Canadian one usually counted to 220 and the USA one to 140, so the needle position in the "other" way seemed funny (e.g. pegged-out speedometer just following traffic on the 401...)
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Old January 17th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #33232
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just get a car like this
That's the old American Motors logo, I think...
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Old January 17th, 2016, 09:19 PM   #33233
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That's the old American Motors logo, I think...
It's the window-shade
But yeah, old Hornet Hatchback, I always liked them
Do any new cars come with "tent" option?

You could have had the same thing from GM too on the Nova and Vega hatchbacks (and surely the other clones of those)
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Old January 17th, 2016, 10:58 PM   #33234
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My car has got broken down. I was skiing in mountains during the past weekend and it was like -15°C when I started the engine today. After 5-10 minutes of drive, an indicator of high engine temperature started to flicker and the thermometer showed it had 110°C. I got scared and since I was driving downhill, I switched to neutral and left the car rolling. The temperature was slowly decreasing and suddenly displayed under 70°C (it can't display lower temperature). The heating was not working and during the whole journey to Bratislava (approx. 150 km) the engine temperature did not reach 70 °C (the optimal is 90 °C). The engine was weak and the car accelerate with 1-2s delay like the engine was cold. It seams there is something wrong with my thermostat.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 11:15 PM   #33235
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I've seen similar issue when the coolant was too much water and froze
It can boil in the engine but will not flow to radiator because there will be solid ice in the hose.
But after waiting an hour with engine off, the ice melts and then works fine!
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Old January 17th, 2016, 11:56 PM   #33236
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My car has got broken down. I was skiing in mountains during the past weekend and it was like -15°C when I started the engine today. After 5-10 minutes of drive, an indicator of high engine temperature started to flicker and the thermometer showed it had 110°C. I got scared and since I was driving downhill, I switched to neutral and left the car rolling. The temperature was slowly decreasing and suddenly displayed under 70°C (it can't display lower temperature). The heating was not working and during the whole journey to Bratislava (approx. 150 km) the engine temperature did not reach 70 °C (the optimal is 90 °C). The engine was weak and the car accelerate with 1-2s delay like the engine was cold. It seams there is something wrong with my thermostat.
Which car do you drive? My car engine oil temperature indicator doesn't show degrees.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 12:34 AM   #33237
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Mercedes usually has degrees scale
Curiously in Celsius (typically marked 40/80/120) even on American models with miles instruments...
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Old January 18th, 2016, 12:40 AM   #33238
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I actually crossed 200 000 miles in my car a couple months ago


wow, is that Saab 900?
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Old January 18th, 2016, 01:30 AM   #33239
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Yep, 900 Turbo convertible
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Old January 18th, 2016, 04:46 PM   #33240
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Yep, 900 Turbo convertible
Very nice, I'm sure you've mentioned it before but I had forgotten. What year is it?
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