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Old August 15th, 2016, 10:36 PM   #34321
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Old August 16th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #34322
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If you said 15 years ago that you would buy a large family car with a 1.4 L engine, people would say you're crazy. Even MPV's like Opel Zafira have entry-level engines starting with 1.4 L. A Ford C-Max even starts with a 1.0 L three-cylinder engine.
they put it even in Mondeo
but that is ok, technology has gone far enough to hold it reliable (unfortunately, we will hardly have cars making 600.000 km anymore, even Mazda 3 with giant 2,2 diesel - no way).

i find it ok. if modern diesel must have turbo boost, why petrol engines wouldn't have it too? look at Talisman - only 1,6 litres diesel engines are available. 6-7 years ago the bottom was 2,0, so similar trend is with diesels, although we will hardly see 1,0 TDI in Passat
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Old August 16th, 2016, 11:08 PM   #34323
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Personally, I'm not convinced about having a three cylinder engine on a compact car (C-segment vehicle).

As for executive mid-size (e.g. D-segment), 2000cc and above is the bare minimum...........and which is why for the Peugeot 508, it's best to go with the GT variant (and its 2.2 liter diesel engine)
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Old August 16th, 2016, 11:28 PM   #34324
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If you said 15 years ago that you would buy a large family car with a 1.4 L engine, people would say you're crazy. Even MPV's like Opel Zafira have entry-level engines starting with 1.4 L. A Ford C-Max even starts with a 1.0 L three-cylinder engine.
Those cars doesnt last long. A family car with anything less than 2.0 is not recommended if you are thinking long term or buying used one.
But also it depends on how you use it. Are just going to drive kids to school and training in the local area I doubt it is any problem. But are you going on long car trips, no way.
I personally always try to go for the topmodell from the manufactor. I would never buy a V50 from volvo but would try to get the same class from Skoda Octavia instead. But v70 is not a problem since that it is the main car. (Just for example, not sure if v50 are still produced and v70 are going to get replaced by a bigger v90)
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Old August 16th, 2016, 11:35 PM   #34325
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When I bought my first car in 2005, a 1994 Toyota Corolla, it was recommended not to buy a car from the early 1990s with much more than 100,000 kms on it if you wanted a reliable car.

I'm not sure how it is today. I bought a nearly new car in January (show model with only 12,000 kms on it) so I don't have to worry about mileage for a while. But some people say that today's downsized engines don't last very long due to the high load.

If you said 15 years ago that you would buy a large family car with a 1.4 L engine, people would say you're crazy. Even MPV's like Opel Zafira have entry-level engines starting with 1.4 L. A Ford C-Max even starts with a 1.0 L three-cylinder engine.
I am not sure. We were used to have cheaper but new cars in our family. We usually sell them once they reached 140 000 kms or 5-6 years. You can still get enough money back if you had taken care of it.

Now my car is 9 years old and slightly below 200 000 kms. This year, I spent about 2 500 € on repairs. Almost everything got broken and I am still afraid what will be the next one. However the car was still reliable in 2015.

I am to buy Kia Ceed SW in next 3 months, once my trial period is over (want to use leasing service).
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Personally, I'm not convinced about having a three cylinder engine on a compact car (C-segment vehicle).

As for executive mid-size (e.g. D-segment), 2000cc and above is the bare minimum...........and which is why for the Peugeot 508, it's best to go with the GT variant (and its 2.2 liter diesel engine)
you see, it is out of fashion. outdated i'd say. 508 is already quite old model, and i think it is being sold only with 1,6 and 2,0 HDi diesels (and 1,6 turbo petrol). i bet that new model will be based on 1,6 engines, both petrol and diesel.

or Volvo S/V90. only 2,0 litres (bi)turbo engines, diesel and petrol. 5 years ago such car would demand 6 cylinder engines, at leat 2,5 or 3,0 litres.

i think that Mazda is the only manufacturer who still doesn't have small turbo engines to offer.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 06:32 AM   #34327
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they put it even in Mondeo
but that is ok, technology has gone far enough to hold it reliable (unfortunately, we will hardly have cars making 600.000 km anymore, even Mazda 3 with giant 2,2 diesel - no way).

i find it ok. if modern diesel must have turbo boost, why petrol engines wouldn't have it too? look at Talisman - only 1,6 litres diesel engines are available. 6-7 years ago the bottom was 2,0, so similar trend is with diesels, although we will hardly see 1,0 TDI in Passat
Diesel and petrol... those are quite different pressures, temperatures and rpms.

All those have substantial effect on the motor wear. Not mentioning that all those additional parts are having their own problems.

On the other side, the production quality and quality control are tremendously improved over the years.
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Diesel and petrol... those are quite different pressures, temperatures and rpms.
Of course, but the trends are the same. Could you have imagined 1,6 litres diesel in D-segment 10 years ago? the same as 1,2 petrol.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 12:34 PM   #34329
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Even MPV's like Opel Zafira have entry-level engines starting with 1.4 L. A Ford C-Max even starts with a 1.0 L three-cylinder engine.
My previous car was Skoda Yeti with a 1.2 litre engine and a 7-speed DSG gearbox. I was quite amazed how powerful it was. There has been some noise around the durability of that box. Anyway, in my driving style the first 100,000 km were without any problems.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 01:23 PM   #34330
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i think that Mazda is the only manufacturer who still doesn't have small turbo engines to offer.
My parents have bought a Mazda CX-3, 2.0 L petrol engine, 120 hp, 2 weeks ago. I found it slightly under-powered for a 2.0 L engine, but on the other side it might be more reliable on the long run (they intend to keep the car for many years).

This is the first photo, from when they picked it up from the dealer:

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Old August 17th, 2016, 01:29 PM   #34331
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What are your opinion on (now bankrupt) SAAB cars?
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Old August 17th, 2016, 01:34 PM   #34332
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A nice car if you're over 50

Seriously, most SAAB drivers seem to be gray, middle-aged men.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 01:38 PM   #34333
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I just hit the 170,000 km mark with 7-years-old 1.4 l diesel Peugeot 207. The engine is seriously too weak for the car (it doesn't reach 70 hp) but I had no major problems. I only changed the cam belt at around 140,000 km...
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My previous Honda accord reached 350.000 km and another 100.000 could be done easily but new owner was not paying attention to sudden strange noise from the machine. In a few weeks cam broke and destroyed the engine.
I bought current one (2010 model, 2.4 l 200 hp, automatic) with 79.000 km and now has 125.000 km in just a year and a half. Before I was very much against automatic transmission but now I can't live without it. Also I like bigger engines, as they have more torque and are more durable as the don't need very expensive electronics and turbines. It eats a bit more oil than smaller engines but that is easy to handle.
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Old August 17th, 2016, 03:38 PM   #34335
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Funny thread title in Aaroads forum
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Old August 17th, 2016, 08:15 PM   #34336
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There are some crazy titles out there . One of them was 'a modest proposal' for renumbering every interstate to a split route of the Western I-86. IIRC I-95 in Maine became I-86 followed by 31 directional suffixes. In words of formulanone (edit: not one of the admins as I previously thought), 'What has been SEEN cannot be WNSEEN'.
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A Ford C-Max even starts with a 1.0 L three-cylinder engine.
I drove a Ford Focus with 1.0 L turbo engine last September (125hp). It was quite comfortable to drive and easy to reach 180km/h but my 10 years old 2.0 L diesel turbo Ford Focus was a little bit faster. My new Ford Focus has a 2.0 L gasoline turbo engine though...

It's turning 5 months tomorrow and it has 25,000km. It's currently in a car repair shop because of defect tire sensors.......... They've changed them today but an online test is required. Their internet was damn slow and they couldn't make the test...... Modern techniques....
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you see, it is out of fashion. outdated i'd say. 508 is already quite old model, and i think it is being sold only with 1,6 and 2,0 HDi diesels (and 1,6 turbo petrol). i bet that new model will be based on 1,6 engines, both petrol and diesel.
The 508 already had its MMC facelift...........so probably, a Full Model Change would be coming in 2-3 years time.

Now as for your comment, only 1.6 and 2.0 liter displacement engines are being sold in the EU (or any market that requires Euro 5-6).

For markets that only require Euro 2-4, then the 2.2 engine is being sold...........and the Philippines is one of the 'dumping grounds' that Peugeot can use to sell their 508 GT with their existing 2.2 liter diesel.


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or Volvo S/V90. only 2,0 litres (bi)turbo engines, diesel and petrol. 5 years ago such car would demand 6 cylinder engines, at leat 2,5 or 3,0 litres.
Volvo is now mostly going with the four-banger approach (as they don't have rights with Yamaha to sell the 4.4 liter V8 anymore )

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i think that Mazda is the only manufacturer who still doesn't have small turbo engines to offer.
Mazda has a put a turbo on their 2.5 liter petrol/gasoline engine for the CX9..........but I don't think it will be sold in Europe afaik.

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Old August 24th, 2016, 10:05 AM   #34339
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Bad earthquake in Central Italy this morning, it destroyed almost completely three little towns (Accumoli, Amatrice, Pescara del Tronto). Some pictures:





13 reported dead in the first hours. Unfortunately, it seems that many more are to come.

Amatrice is known for being the birthplace of famous "amatriciana" sauce for pasta.

EDIT: Transport-wise, it seems that 2 viaducts on SS 4 near Accumoli moved 15 cm. The road is still open to allow operation of search and rescue and hospitalization of those in need. Another bridge near Amatrice, on SS 260, is about to collapse.
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That's bad. Is there significant damage in the larger cities in the region? Terni, Foligno and Ascoli Piceno are only 30 - 40 kilometers away from the epicenter. Not to mention L'Aquila...
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