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Old September 22nd, 2016, 07:44 PM   #34561
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Old September 22nd, 2016, 08:08 PM   #34562
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Could be, but left was first. :-)
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 01:25 AM   #34563
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 07:30 PM   #34564
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I've got to drive what I had left of A-22 this afternoon. This was my first drive ever into Catalonia. So close, yet so far.
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Old September 23rd, 2016, 10:38 PM   #34565
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A Romanian politician dropped this pearl:

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Being a politician is a very risky job. More risky than being a soldier in Afghanistan for example.
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Old September 24th, 2016, 12:09 AM   #34566
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Yes, you risk that you won't be able to steal all the money you planned.
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Old September 24th, 2016, 01:30 PM   #34567
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Old September 24th, 2016, 01:45 PM   #34568
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Yes, you risk that you won't be able to steal all the money you planned.
Or that you won't be elected so that you have to find a proper job and keep shouting in opposition
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Old September 24th, 2016, 05:11 PM   #34569
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I've got to drive what I had left of A-22 this afternoon. This was my first drive ever into Catalonia. So close, yet so far.
I thought you had once driven all the way to Italy or smth?
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Old September 24th, 2016, 08:14 PM   #34570
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No, it was a high school trip before I had driver's license. I've also been to Italian A22, but only between Modena and Verona.
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Old September 25th, 2016, 02:14 AM   #34571
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Old September 25th, 2016, 10:00 PM   #34572
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I've noticed that Central Europe lies exactly on the opposite side of the Earth as the Bering Strait (by longitude only, not latitude). Slovenia is closer to the Russian side, but France is closer to the Alaskan side (by longitude, not real distance).
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Old September 25th, 2016, 10:31 PM   #34573
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I've noticed that Central Europe lies exactly on the opposite side of the Earth as the Bering Strait (by longitude only, not latitude). Slovenia is closer to the Russian side, but France is closer to the Alaskan side (by longitude, not real distance).
Of course, as Greenwich meridiane that crosses Europe is the opposite of 180th meridian (IDL), that passes close to the Bering Strait.
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Old September 25th, 2016, 10:41 PM   #34574
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And Spain and New Zealand are in exactly opposite sides of the earth.
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Old September 25th, 2016, 10:43 PM   #34575
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Of course, as Greenwich meridiane that crosses Europe is the opposite of 180th meridian (IDL), that passes close to the Bering Strait.
The International Date Line crosses the Bering Strait, but the 180th meridian doesn't; it runs close to it though.
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Old September 26th, 2016, 12:05 AM   #34576
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The International Date Line crosses the Bering Strait, but the 180th meridian doesn't; it runs close to it though.
I know. The IDL is based on 180th meridian though, although it deviates from it in order to avoid splitting the same country.
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Old September 26th, 2016, 07:33 AM   #34577
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I know. The IDL is based on 180th meridian though, although it deviates from it in order to avoid splitting the same country.
Basically, there are two date lines:

The IDL is a de facto line. It is the line separating the standard times across days. It is dependent on the decision on each country, as each country has a power to determine which time zone(s) to use in its territorial area. Because the territorial area does not extend to the international waters, the line is approximate at the high seas.

The latest changes to the IDL took place in 1999, when the eastern Kiribati moved from UTC-10 and UTC-11 to UTC+14 and UTC+13 respectively. That was done by skipping the day of December 30th.

The Nautical Date Line is the meridian 180. It is based on the Anglo-French Conference on Time-keeping at Sea, London 1917. As the most fleets have adopted it, it is seen a de jure setup based on an international agreement. The idea is that the the ship uses the exact meridian-based zone time for inter-vessel and other radio communication while at sea. (Example: A summertime ferry leaves Turku (Finland) at the zone UTC+3, and arrives in Stockholm (Sweden) at the zone UTC+2. Because the whole leg lies between the longitudes 7.5E and 22.5E, the ferry reports its position at the zone UTC+1 whenever undocked. The time used aboard is UTC+3 for convenience during the whole trip.)
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Old September 26th, 2016, 11:14 AM   #34578
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And Spain and New Zealand are in exactly opposite sides of the earth.
Yup. I found Alaejos (on A-62 between Valladolid and Salamanca) is as far as possible without leaving Earth from Wellington.
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The latest changes to the IDL took place in 1999, when the eastern Kiribati moved from UTC-10 and UTC-11 to UTC+14 and UTC+13 respectively. That was done by skipping the day of December 30th.
No, it happened in 2011 when Samoa and Tokelau moved from UTC-11 to UTC-13. They skipped 30 December too. Also, Eastern Kiribati moved across the IDL in 1995.
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Old September 26th, 2016, 01:27 PM   #34579
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No, it happened in 2011 when Samoa and Tokelau moved from UTC-11 to UTC-13.
Ups. I was not aware on that. I have to update the IDL slide in my celestial navigation teacher's slide deck.
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Old September 26th, 2016, 01:36 PM   #34580
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The Nautical Date Line is the meridian 180. It is based on the Anglo-French Conference on Time-keeping at Sea, London 1917. As the most fleets have adopted it, it is seen a de jure setup based on an international agreement. The idea is that the the ship uses the exact meridian-based zone time for inter-vessel and other radio communication while at sea. (Example: A summertime ferry leaves Turku (Finland) at the zone UTC+3, and arrives in Stockholm (Sweden) at the zone UTC+2. Because the whole leg lies between the longitudes 7.5E and 22.5E, the ferry reports its position at the zone UTC+1 whenever undocked. The time used aboard is UTC+3 for convenience during the whole trip.)
I traveled with a ferry from Stockholm (Sweden) to Turku (Finland). On board the ferry there was also a conference with an exact schedule. The funny thing is that they used the Swedish time zone until mid-day (when we were half-way to Finland) and the Finnish time zone after that. You can imagine that the conference scheduled hours were messed up a little by this...
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