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Old January 7th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #35301
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They're having an unusually warm weather in the British Isles, instead.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 09:46 PM   #35302
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Meanwhile, the city of Lleida in Catalonia had 34 hours of sunshine in the whole month of December 2016, due to the fog over the Ebro valley. The average for December is 96 h. Lleida is also one of the driest places in the Iberian peninsula, with an annual average of just 342 mm (13.46 in).
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Old January 7th, 2017, 09:49 PM   #35303
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Much of Europe has been getting winter weather this week, though the brutal cold has shifted east, particularly in Scandinavia.

Look at Lithuania, -1 at the coast and -24 near the Belarus border. A huge difference for such a small country with no mountains or Gulf Stream.
It is not about mountains and proximity of Gulf Stream but physics: Very cold air is dense and it does not mix quickly with warm air. That is why the boundary between warm and cold air masses often is pretty sharp. When that boundary moves, the temperature may change suddenly.

Last night, the temperature rose 10.3 degrees, from - 21.7 to -11.4 in 10 minutes in Porvoo, 50 km east of Helsinki. In Muonio, about 200 km north of the Arctic Circle, the temperature rose yesterday 30 degrees in 24 hours, from -34 to -4 degrees.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 09:52 PM   #35304
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At least this happens in the domain of low sub-zero temperatures, else that would span super cells, massive thunderstorms and tornadoes.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 12:01 PM   #35305
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Southern Italy has had a lot of snow these days.
These pics come from Southern Apulia, the "heel" of Italy:




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Old January 8th, 2017, 02:28 PM   #35306
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Would making odometer rewinding impossible decrease the German second-hand cars export? Why?
It would probably decrease the value of those German second-hand cars, especially in markets where the odometer reading is recorded every time the vehicle comes in for a technical inspection (e.g. Estonia).

Only very rarely do used cars have more than 250,000 km on the clock if they are imported to Estonia, even if it's a 15-year old car. A 2001 diesel Passat from Germany with 190,000 km on the odometer? Yeah, right!
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Do you need an EU-wide system for this? The USA does it pretty much by private interests completely - the individual states make records, and private companies just search all of them for you to make those reports. It would seem easy to make the same system searching German and Eesti databases (and the other EU states...)
In Estonia you need the license plate number and the VIN-number to look at a car's history. I'm not sure whether such databases are open to public in other EU countries.
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No, the ferries are ice-breakers themselves.
Interestingly, the newest ship in Tallink's fleet which will arrive at the end of January does not have the same ice-class as ice-breakers anymore. That's because on Tallinn-Helsinki line the traffic is so dense that there's pretty much always a clear path for ferries available.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 04:52 PM   #35307
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Old January 8th, 2017, 05:12 PM   #35308
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It would probably decrease the value of those German second-hand cars, especially in markets where the odometer reading is recorded every time the vehicle comes in for a technical inspection (e.g. Estonia).
Everyone knows about the shifted odometers, so I am not sure about that. And the German cars are anyway cheaper than local ones.

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In Estonia you need the license plate number and the VIN-number to look at a car's history. I'm not sure whether such databases are open to public in other EU countries.
In Poland you need those two things, and in addition the date of first registration.

Unless it's a bus, then a part of the data is accessible with the license plate number only.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 05:12 PM   #35309
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Interestingly, the newest ship in Tallink's fleet which will arrive at the end of January does not have the same ice-class as ice-breakers anymore. That's because on Tallinn-Helsinki line the traffic is so dense that there's pretty much always a clear path for ferries available.
Are you sure? Several sources say it is class 1A Super, which is the best one.

Selecting somewhat lower would be a business risk to the regular traffic, because of the possibility of a rejected port access at harsh ice conditions.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 07:00 PM   #35310
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Everyone knows about the shifted odometers, so I am not sure about that. And the German cars are anyway cheaper than local ones.
Well, let's say you have two pretty much identical cars, one with 400,000 km confirmed km on the odometer and the other one with 200,000 km but the mileage can't be verified. Most people will still choose the one with lower mileage even though it could've easily driven just as much.

You have to understand that the average car buyer is not very knowledgeable and quite easy to scam by dodgy second-hand car dealers.

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Are you sure? Several sources say it is class 1A Super, which is the best one.

Selecting somewhat lower would be a business risk to the regular traffic, because of the possibility of a rejected port access at harsh ice conditions.
I'm certain of that. It's class 1A, not 1A Super. It was a trade-off for better efficiency since you get to build a lighter ferry. There is very little business risk invovled since class 1A ships can still penetrate up to 0.8m of ice on their own (compared to 1m for 1A Super ships). It would have to be a truly extraordinary winter to have more than 0.8m of solid ice on the shipping lane between Tallinn and Helsinki.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:13 PM   #35311
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Lagoons in Venice, Caorle, Marano and Grado are partly frozen, not enough to walk across them, though (last time it was possible was in 1929).
Record low in Venice this winter was -11.7.
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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:31 PM   #35312
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Go to the south... oh wait. The beach of Porto Cesareo, Puglia, southern Italy:
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Old January 8th, 2017, 09:42 PM   #35313
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Well, let's say you have two pretty much identical cars, one with 400,000 km confirmed km on the odometer and the other one with 200,000 km but the mileage can't be verified. Most people will still choose the one with lower mileage even though it could've easily driven just as much.
If they are actually identical (with the same degree of wear-out inside), I would take the one with 400 000 km. A more trustworthy seller (so it's more likely that he didn't hide any problems with the car) and less problems with registering the car (for a locally bought one, I just go to one office, register it, go to another one, pay the tax and that's all, if it's imported it's much more paperwork - translating the car documents, paying extra taxes, doing extra technical inspections etc.).
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Fiat in the snow Abruzzo, Italy.



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Old January 8th, 2017, 10:11 PM   #35315
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Here in the Netherlands they have this famous 11-city skating race in the canals in the North. It only happens with long enough freeze. I was hoping it would happen this year, but temps are already on the way up.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 12:31 AM   #35316
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Fiat in the snow Abruzzo, Italy.
Before driving, remember to remove snow from your car

Although in this case it might be a little bit more difficult and time consuming than usually.

By the way, if the snow wasn't removed from the streets frequently enough during the snowfall, there might be no roads to drive these cars on
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Old January 9th, 2017, 10:33 AM   #35317
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In the Netherlands, the share of new car sales (non-company car) is only 5% of all car sales.
Following that discussion on new vs used cars, I was curious about the Italian market so I did some research.
According to the Italian Ministry for Infrastructures and Transportation, in 2015 there were 1,566,564 new car registered in Italy, while in the same period 4,589,823 used vehicles were bought. These figures regard all kinds of vehicles (cars, trucks, buses etc.). The ratio is almost 1/3.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 05:58 PM   #35318
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Go to the south... oh wait. The beach of Porto Cesareo, Puglia, southern Italy:
Just under top of Storžič, Slovenia, 2132 m left is the north side, constantly in shadow:

Currently there is more snow in SE Slovenia on 200 m asl than on 2000 m in Julian Alps.
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Old January 9th, 2017, 06:11 PM   #35319
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only salt ice formations here at seaside, no snow.







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