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Old January 18th, 2017, 06:22 PM   #35381
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Snow on the beach in Torrevieja, Spain. Normally this area has very mild winters, the average January high is 16°C.

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Old January 18th, 2017, 07:09 PM   #35382
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A series of three M>5 earthquakes struck this morning Central Italy, the villages already hit by the quakes of August and October. A quarter of Abruzzo region population, more than 300,000 people has no electricity: the majority of them is already facing extreme cold and heavy snow fall (some villages had 1.5 m of snow in just few days).

The symbol picture is the one that shows the church tower of Amatrice, collapsed this morning after withstanding the previous quakes.
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Old January 18th, 2017, 07:15 PM   #35383
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Snow on the beach in Torrevieja, Spain. Normally this area has very mild winters, the average January high is 16°C.
Meanwhile no snow here, just cold . Benasque has hit a low of -17°C.
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Old January 18th, 2017, 07:35 PM   #35384
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I have some good friends in Camerino, they are quite exhausted from this active earthquake cycle. None has been injured, but the whole thing is scary. At least they live in a modern house with much better seismic resistance. The buildings they work are at very old though.
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Old January 18th, 2017, 09:23 PM   #35385
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It's crazy how many earthquakes there are in Italy recently. I could no more sleep relaxed in that region. :-/
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Old January 18th, 2017, 09:47 PM   #35386
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Snow on the beach in Torrevieja, Spain. Normally this area has very mild winters, the average January high is 16°C.
Our local supermarket displayed today a warning about a potential reduced availability of vegetables because of the weather in Spain and Italy.
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Old January 18th, 2017, 10:35 PM   #35387
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Our local supermarket displayed today a warning about a potential reduced availability of vegetables because of the weather in Spain and Italy.
Even here, zucchini reached an all time high of 6 €/kg... it's five times the prices of 2 months ago
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Old January 18th, 2017, 11:10 PM   #35388
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Supermarkets in the Netherlands are also running out of spinach due to the poor harvest in Spain, they say.

Spanish greenhouses are different from those found in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, these are glass frame greenhouses, in Spain they are often just plastic with incomplete coverage to create a real indoor greenhouse environment. This leaves it more exposed to weather.

The infamous 'Mar de plástico' (sea of plastic) west of Almería. It measures 30 kilometers across.



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Old January 18th, 2017, 11:38 PM   #35389
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Even here, zucchini reached an all time high of 6 €/kg... it's five times the prices of 2 months ago
christ, does somebody buy them with that price? there is no zucchini that i would overpay that much nor there is such meal that would require zuccchini that much to overpay them so.
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@chriszwolle: the Atlas of Urban expansion picked Zwolle as one of its 200 global representative cities. There is a lot of data there, for instance, that the % of new roads having width <4m exploded since 2000.

http://www.atlasofurbanexpansion.org/cities/view/Zwolle
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Old January 19th, 2017, 10:32 AM   #35391
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christ, does somebody buy them with that price? there is no zucchini that i would overpay that much nor there is such meal that would require zuccchini that much to overpay them so.
Sometime in autumn I bought lemons for 7 €/kg (I've noticed that only later at the cashier)
About a week ago I noticed zuchhini selling for 4 €/kg. And I see that vegetables section in my supermarket is missing some usual products, like romaine lettuce.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 10:37 AM   #35392
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christ, does somebody buy them with that price? there is no zucchini that i would overpay that much nor there is such meal that would require zuccchini that much to overpay them so.
Not me for sure... I ended up leaving with just half a leek
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Sometime in autumn I bought lemons for 7 €/kg (I've noticed that only later at the cashier)
About a week ago I noticed zuchhini selling for 4 €/kg. And I see that vegetables section in my supermarket is missing some usual products, like romaine lettuce.
yeah, lemons are really extremly variable. in the highest season you can find them for 1€ for kilo, and in autumn they are 6-7 times more expensive.
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Zucchini, I had to look up what it meant We call it a Courgette. I had a salad with Courgette for dinner just now.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 07:14 PM   #35395
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Zucchini has Italian origin (is called zucchina in Italian), courgette has French origin. Apartently, in English there's no native word for it, so both words are used.
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A hotel near a town I've visit couple years ago in central Italy has been hit by a severe avalanche and around 30 guests and staff are dead or missing

So eery looking at the pics of the town nearby.


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Old January 19th, 2017, 07:37 PM   #35397
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calabacín in spanish
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Old January 19th, 2017, 08:43 PM   #35398
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Zucchini, I had to look up what it meant We call it a Courgette. I had a salad with Courgette for dinner just now.
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Zucchini has Italian origin (is called zucchina in Italian), courgette has French origin. Apartently, in English there's no native word for it, so both words are used.
I never heard the word "courgette": during my studies of English (and watching movies and TV shows) I always encountered zucchini, so I thought it was the only word used in English.

There are a lot of Italian words passed onto English regarding food. I always was fascinated by the fact that some of them changed their meaning in the process. For instance, "pepperoni" comes from Italian "peperone", but it means "pepper"; "confetti" in Italian is a kind of sugared almond; "latte" in Italian is simply "milk".
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Old January 19th, 2017, 08:59 PM   #35399
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According to Wikipedia:

In the United States, Australia and Germany, the plant is commonly called a zucchini

The name courgette is a French loan word, the diminutive of courge, "gourd, marrow", and is commonly used in France, Belgium and other Francophone areas, and in the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, the Netherlands and South Africa.


The Dutch language has a large number of French loanwords.
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Old January 19th, 2017, 10:30 PM   #35400
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As already stated by vitoriaman, zucchini/courgette is called calabacín in Spanish (I didn't remember if it was that or berenjena, which is aubergine or eggplant), literally "little pumpkin", and indeed it is the same species as pumpkins.
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