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Old January 19th, 2017, 11:13 PM   #35401
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We call it (or something similar to it) "dovlecel" which literally is diminutive of pumpkin (dovleac)
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Old January 20th, 2017, 12:36 AM   #35402
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Also the Italian zucchina is the diminutive of pumpkin (zucca).
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Old January 20th, 2017, 01:01 AM   #35403
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Same in Serbian, pumpkin is "tikva" and zucchini is "tikvica", deminutive of "tikva".
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Old January 20th, 2017, 02:08 AM   #35404
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According to Wikipedia:

In the United States, Australia and Germany, the plant is commonly called a zucchini

The name courgette is a French loan word, the diminutive of courge, "gourd, marrow", and is commonly used in France, Belgium and other Francophone areas, and in the United Kingdom, Ireland, New Zealand, the Netherlands and South Africa.


The Dutch language has a large number of French loanwords.
Mergpompoen is the Dutch word. But hardly anyone uses that word anymore. Courge means Merg in French and Courgette is just the diminutive of courge.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 02:31 AM   #35405
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something similar happened in England
they always call eggplant "aubergine" from the French

but Americans still use the English word...
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Old January 20th, 2017, 07:20 AM   #35406
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Given the issue: what is the difference between vegetable and fruit? And which one is tomato? :-)
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Old January 20th, 2017, 10:19 AM   #35407
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Given the issue: what is the difference between vegetable and fruit? And which one is tomato? :-)
Vegetables are healthy and fruits taste good. :-)

Tomato is a vegetable, even if someone says it is a fruit.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 10:24 AM   #35408
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Meanwhile in Finland.

A not-so-serious web publication metropoli.net published a news:



The headline translated: These are the most popular dog breeds in Finland.

The left dog is huge. I wonder if anyone has a flat tall enough for it.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 06:58 PM   #35409
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Vegetables are healthy and fruits taste good. :-)

Tomato is a vegetable, even if someone says it is a fruit.
I've read a study about vegetables vs. fruits issue and it concluded that vegetables are all edible parts of a plant (root, leaves,cane, etc.) except fruits (in botanical matter of fact). Tomato is technically a fruit so it is fruit after all

But children here are also taught that tomato is a vegetable.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 07:33 PM   #35410
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I've read a study about vegetables vs. fruits issue and it concluded that vegetables are all edible parts of a plant (root, leaves,cane, etc.) except fruits (in botanical matter of fact). Tomato is technically a fruit so it is fruit after all

But children here are also taught that tomato is a vegetable.
The kitchen view and the botanical taxonomy view differ a lot. Botanically, a cucumber is a fruit, a strawberry is a vegetable, and banana, chili, and watermelon are berries.

In the everyday life, I would prefer the kitchen view.
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Old January 20th, 2017, 07:47 PM   #35411
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Sweden passed the 10 million inhabitants mark today.

http://www.scb.se/sv_/Om-SCB/Nyheter...t-10-miljoner/
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Old January 21st, 2017, 12:04 AM   #35412
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Given the issue: what is the difference between vegetable and fruit? And which one is tomato? :-)
Fruit is something that grows on a plant and the reason the plant grows it is to provide seeds. And it's no longer a flower (it's already fertilized).

Vegetable is something you use to prepare meals, especially proper lunch/dinner meals, those which are not sweet.

It's more of a matter of agreement whether something is a vegetable, but whether something is a fruit - it's clearly defined.

So tomato will be both fruit and vegetable.

Potato is a vegetable, but not a fruit - the potato plant grows it in the ground (although it's not root) and uses it to store some nutritious substances.

Broccoli is a vegetable, but not a fruit - because what you eat is actually a flower.

Apple is a fruit only. Probably there are some non-sweet meals which can include apples - but this is a matter of agreement.

At least it is so in Poland. There are differences between countries. For example, in Poland, the Polish term meaning diary includes not only milky products, but also eggs - but from what I know, in English-speaking countries it doesn't include eggs.

Talking about the fog lights: in Poland it's not obligatory to use them at all. You are obliged to have rear fog lights, you don't have to have front fog lights. You are allowed to use the front fog lights whenever the visibility is reduced by any atmospheric conditions like fog or rain (you are obliged to use either front fog lights, or the "short" headlights). In the case of the rear fog lights, you are allowed to use them only if the visibility is below 50 m.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 12:26 AM   #35413
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Zucchini at 8€/kg over there.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 01:17 AM   #35414
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I was in a supermarket today and I could have a look at the prices, but I didn't come to an idea of checking the price of zucchini...

What I can check is the wholesale price: http://www.fresh-market.pl/ceny/ceny...owych/warszawa

For zucchini it's 23-25 zł/kg, which is about 5,5 euro.

For comparison, the wholesale price of apples shown there is 1 zł up to 1.33 zł/kg for most types. I bought apples today on a local market and I paid 1.5 zł/kg and the prices were from 1 zł to 2 zł/kg (25 to 50 cent), depending on the type and the seller.

Of course, the price of apples in Poland is not influenced by farming problems in southern Europe, but it's anyway interesting - because when I was in Germany, apples cost there more than bananas. No idea, why they are so expensive there.
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Old January 21st, 2017, 01:56 AM   #35415
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Zucchini at 8€/kg over there.
And? Even without considering the poor weather, we are in the middle of winter so we are totaly off season for this vegetable and nobody should really consume them (off season vegetables are a disaster, they have to be cultivated on heated greenhouses at a very high energy cost, and in term of nutrition they are less rich in nutrients than the one from the right season... ).

If the "carbon cost" of those off season vegetable was right, during the winter, they should alway be at that price... but unfortunatly fossil fuels are still too cheap and overused without consideration even with the actual knowledge of the environmental change/disaster that we are already experiencing today...
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Old January 21st, 2017, 02:15 AM   #35416
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Of course, the price of apples in Poland is not influenced by farming problems in southern Europe, but it's anyway interesting - because when I was in Germany, apples cost there more than bananas. No idea, why they are so expensive there.
Of course, it has nothing to see with the actual weather, those apples are stored into warehouses since september-october, and for the conventional apples, they (sadly) receive a lot of treatments and preservative, and especially one (named "smartfresh") which enable them to store the apples during 12 months and they still look the same 1 year after... so that's why you find those apples on markets during all the year (and why they are not affected at all with current weather)...

But those treatments are dangerous for your own health, not only because of the treatments who interact in your body with others chemicals in a way that we don't really know yet (ie : endocrine disruptors), but also after many months of storage, even if the apple still looks the same because the treatment stopped the aging process of the apple, on the inside the apple is "empty", they have lost most of the good nutrients (like polyphenols, antioxidants, vitamins), after 1 month of storage they already loose 25% of those nutrients and the decrease continue constantly during the following months untill there's almost no nutrients in it...
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Old January 21st, 2017, 02:38 AM   #35417
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that's why apple should be consumed in the traditional preservation method at this time of year... cider
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Old January 21st, 2017, 11:03 AM   #35418
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Sweden passed the 10 million inhabitants mark today.

http://www.scb.se/sv_/Om-SCB/Nyheter...t-10-miljoner/
i was following that thing too, and i was quite amazed when i recently realized that some countries like Portugal, Belgium, Greece, Czechia, even Hungary had more inhabitants than Sweden. that was really deep hole in my geography knowledge (which I'm proud of actually )
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Old January 21st, 2017, 01:43 PM   #35419
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Norway is about to overtake Finland in population
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Old January 21st, 2017, 04:59 PM   #35420
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Of course, it has nothing to see with the actual weather, those apples are stored into warehouses since september-october, and for the conventional apples, they (sadly) receive a lot of treatments and preservative, and especially one (named "smartfresh") which enable them to store the apples during 12 months and they still look the same 1 year after... so that's why you find those apples on markets during all the year (and why they are not affected at all with current weather)...
I don't think you are right... The apples which are not damaged in any way e.g. by insects, not rotten and which have no bruises, can be stored for winter in a standard home cellar.
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