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Old February 9th, 2017, 10:47 AM   #35561
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In Italy people convicted for certain crimes may be banned from voting for some years (convicted for other crimes can vote from prison).
Besides that, any Italian citizen above 18 can vote, include those residing abroad (in that case they vote by mail few years before the voting day).
The problem are those termporarily displaced within Italy: they are supposed to go back to their town, but Italy is quite big, and it's not easy to travel 1,500km just to vote. There's a procedure to be allowed to vote in another town, but it's complicated and must be requested weeks in advance, so not a lot of people do that. It means that a substantial number of Italian citizens is de facto excluded from voting.
In the past there was a law that banned enterpreneurs who declared bankrupt from voting for 5 years. It was abolished in 2006.
Foreign residents can't vote, until they get Italian citizenship. Other EU citizens living in Italy can vote at European and municipal elections, but not at national or regional elections or referenda.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 12:21 PM   #35562
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You forgot to say that people going back to their hometowns to vote have discounts on public transport up to 80%.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 12:26 PM   #35563
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You forgot to say that people going back to their hometowns to vote have discounts on public transport up to 80%.
60% on local trains, 70% on long-disctance trains, I don't know about planes, buses and ferries.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 04:28 PM   #35564
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Other EU citizens living in Italy can vote at European and municipal elections
as far as I know it's an EU rule and is the same in all member nations. Considering "living in" means "having a registered residence in".
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Old February 9th, 2017, 06:32 PM   #35565
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http://www.tvnoviny.sk/domace/185779...ej-opita-matka

It's in Slovak, but the story is worth mentioning. A drunk lady crash into a car driven by her drunk mother
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Old February 9th, 2017, 06:38 PM   #35566
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as far as I know it's an EU rule and is the same in all member nations. Considering "living in" means "having a registered residence in".
Yes, it is an EU-wide rule, though implementation vary.

In the Netherlands, we foreigners with EU nationality automatically get voting sheets for local elections. It is just an efficient byproduct of being registered officially as a resident. In some countries, the procedure to request these voting rights is quite cumbersome, and in some places (like in Andaluzia town with many relatively educated northern European retirees) there is some resentment about foreigners organizing themselves politically at local level (there were some high profile cases about development plans existing retirees resisted en masse because it would spoil their views).
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Old February 11th, 2017, 09:27 PM   #35567
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3 identical OUB's for 3 different countries' tolls: ViaToll (Poland), BelToll (Belarus), Télépéage (France). Good luck in finding any differences!
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Old February 11th, 2017, 10:17 PM   #35568
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Kapsch is a major player in the toll transponder market. The Norwegian AutoPASS tag looks exactly like that as well, and I believe ViaT in Spain and Via Verde in Portugal are also similar.

Interoperability is non-existent for most systems though. Some businesses sell transponders that work in multiple countries but they charge money on top of the toll rates.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 12:25 PM   #35569
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Old February 12th, 2017, 02:35 PM   #35570
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Snow is the police's best friend to locate illegal cannabis growing. They are the only houses with no snow on it

Usually these people grow cannabis on a larger scale, consuming a large amount of illegally tapped electricity.

Last year I had a ceiling leakage and the police came immediately because it is often a sign of illegal cannabis growing in the apartment above (there was none though).

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Old February 12th, 2017, 06:01 PM   #35571
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Snow is the police's best friend to locate illegal cannabis growing. They are the only houses with no snow on it

Usually these people grow cannabis on a larger scale, consuming a large amount of illegally tapped electricity.

Last year I had a ceiling leakage and the police came immediately because it is often a sign of illegal cannabis growing in the apartment above (there was none though).

Yeah, when I read this news I thought that it is crazy that they do it. I would like to see the judge that would issue a writ on this.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 07:26 PM   #35572
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indeed, and we have more snow here
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Old February 12th, 2017, 07:51 PM   #35573
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The police could simply use thermal scanners (which are rather cheap these days) while driving around neighborhoods, and do the same on any cold winter night without snow.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 08:05 PM   #35574
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They could do that, but it is much easier (and way cooler for a newspaper headline) if they catch the bad guys because of the snow melting too fast on their house.
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Old February 12th, 2017, 08:21 PM   #35575
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The whole thing is curious since the ideal temperature for growing marijuana is ca. 20-25 *C which should not cause any alarms

I imagine they have too many lamps running to give light for the plants... but the real temp should not be so much (though maybe even with cooling the room, it's still enough heat to melt the roof...)

The worst point is we could save so much energy by using solar power for this application, but the regulatory environment makes this difficult
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Old February 12th, 2017, 09:17 PM   #35576
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the ideal temperature for growing marijuana is ca. 20-25 *C
I won't ask how do you know this
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That offhand knowledge is enough to cause alarms
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Old February 12th, 2017, 10:14 PM   #35578
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Old February 13th, 2017, 01:36 AM   #35580
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People who grow marijuana remove insulation so that heat from growth lamps can escape. A flat on a twin building to mine (same complex) caught fire last autumn. They had tinkered with the meter and it short-circuited, creating an electrical fire and leading to the evacuation of several flats for up to one week until they cleaned it up.
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