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Old March 2nd, 2017, 01:17 AM   #35801
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In Slovenia only Bosnians and Albanians are construction workers.
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 07:26 AM   #35802
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By the way, changing the topic.

(it's good if you understand some German)

It's how Germans see the Polish construction workers working in Germany, as compared with German workers:

But... The Polish construction workers in Poland are exactly like the German worker described there Assuming that they exist - with which there are problems because they all have emigrated to the UK, Germany, Netherlands or to Scandinavia years ago.

How is it in other countries?
The most of construction workers in Slovakia are of Slovak or Roma origin. But when it comes to the immigrants working as construction workers, they are Ukrainians or Serbs. Currently there is a huge case concerning Kia car factory employing Serbs under very unfavourable conditions (for Serbs) and sometimes it is even compared to slavery.

Albanians or Macedonians are usually kabab vendors
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 09:40 AM   #35803
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A flat in the house where I live was refurbished several weeks ago. I went home from the office, between 5-6 PM. Two workers made something in front of that flat, I said hello. One of them answered: "Morgen", which means "Good morning". I smiled and went on but I heared the other one explaining him in Russian that he had been wrong, in afternoon he shall say "Guten Tag".
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 11:59 AM   #35804
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Not for us, we do have a lot of departments with such names like (Hauts-de-Seine, Haute-Saône, Haute-Marne, Haute-Corse, etc...) even if some are totaly flat departments, but I understand that it could be funny seen in that way!
Haute-Saone, Haute-Marne, I pass them because they are where the source of those rivers are located, thus it's not that weird they are called "Upper Saone" and "Upper Marne". Hauts-de-Seine, on the other hand, is nowhere near the upper reaches of Seine river, so I assume its something like "Seine hills".

Now that I re-read, for some reason I wrote the French names of Picardy and Normandy, when I have a policy of writting placenames in the language I'm writting if avalaible (For example for a lack of an English name I use the official names of Lleida and Girona, but when writting in Spanish they become Lérida and Gerona respectively).
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 12:19 PM   #35805
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A flat in the house where I live was refurbished several weeks ago. I went home from the office, between 5-6 PM. Two workers made something in front of that flat, I said hello. One of them answered: "Morgen", which means "Good morning". I smiled and went on but I heared the other one explaining him in Russian that he had been wrong, in afternoon he shall say "Guten Tag".
Well, when I lived in one student dormitory in Germany for a month, the windows were being exchanged and the workers sounded Russian

Then I lived a few months in a rented room in a house. The owner was German, but a Polish family was living downstairs. They had renovated that house for the owner, the man was working as a construction worker, the woman - as cleaner in the house (in the rented part). By the way, the woman couldn't speak almost any German, so when there was a need to ask the cleaner about something from the renters side, I had to do it.

Within the last year, the number of Ukrainian immigrants in Poland has significantly increased. For years, the largest minority in Poland were... Germans. Being something about 0,4% of the population. But now, it will be definitely Ukrainians. On a tram or bus in Łódź, you almost always meet someone speaking Ukrainian or Russian (I cannot distinguish those languages and people from Ukraine may speak each of them depending on the part of Ukraine they come from).

So maybe now it will get easier to find a plumber or an electrician when you need one. And maybe the quality of service will be even better, like the Polish craftsman in this German video Because, as I said, the Polish construction workers in Poland are like the German one in the video. OK, maybe the only difference is that they drink vodka instead of beer and Jägermeister.
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 01:42 PM   #35806
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I'm scouting Bergen to organize my relocation and meet future employer.

The city looks pretty when it is not raining, which happened just for 2h so far.

I won't be cycling here, too much hills and scary faint bike lanes.

All this water create an interesting effect on buildings and parks and that. Doesn't look barren even in winter.
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 01:43 PM   #35807
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Interestingly, they also have some the Dutch would consider ebola: plenty of underground pedestrian passages
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Is it a leader of an opposite party (with respect to the one which created the poster), who is supposed to be like Kim?
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"Morgen", which means "Good morning". I smiled and went on but I heared the other one explaining him in Russian that he had been wrong, in afternoon he shall say "Guten Tag".
"Moin" is used at all times of day in Northern Germany though

"Mahlzeit" is partially used in Lower Franconia from 9AM to 3PM
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By the way, changing the topic.

(it's good if you understand some German)

It's how Germans see the Polish construction workers working in Germany, as compared with German workers:



But... The Polish construction workers in Poland are exactly like the German worker described there Assuming that they exist - with which there are problems because they all have emigrated to the UK, Germany, Netherlands or to Scandinavia years ago.

How is it in other countries?
Having nothing to do, I translated this video. Unfortunately, the option to add subtitles was not active, so I did it just so - but when you read it, do it definitely, while listening to the video.

Someone German/Austrian/Swiss, or, maybe even better, English/American/Australian/whatever speaking German, would it translate better, so if you have any correction proposals, don't bother with showing them.

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Dear Chairman,
a study have just been finished,
which I would like to present
in order to underline my arguments.

On the Institute of Work Ethics
of the University of Görlitz
a comparison study about
the different approches to work
of German and Polish craftsmen
has been carried out.

Dear Chairman, please imagine:
5:30 A.M.
You hear a doorbell.
In front of your door, Bolek
with his Polish craftsman group
waits ready to renovate your apartment.

Six energic faces
say only one thing:
"Let us
work,
work,
work!"

In the same time
in a different place:
Also the German craftsman
is already active.
He saws.

His face
also says only one thing:
"Let me
sleep,
sleep,
sleep!"

5:32 A.M.
Bolek and his people
unload their car.
They came in the morning
from Warsaw.
In the night,
they have already
built a double garage in Braunschweig
and put two new roofs in Hannover.

You, dear Chairmen,
explain Bolek what to do.
Renovate the whole apartment.

All the wallpapers off. In the living room
replace the walls,
all the wiring new,
all the plumbing new,
plaster all the walls,
install dropped ceilings,
renew the molding,
raise the floors,
patch holes and paint walls,
tile the bathroom,
in the kitchen - ingrain wallpaper and laminate.

Bolek is surprised.
He thought there is work
for the whole day.

6:30 A.M.
The German craftsman
turns around once again.

7:00 A.M.
Your apartment, dear Chairman,
looks like Dresden in 1945.
All the wallpapers are down.
Bolek, Leszek and Marek
slit the wiring
into the walls.
Antek and Spiszek
plaster the walls in the same time
and Franek makes, sweating,
the kitchen ready for the laminate
and the ingrain wallpaper.


7:30 A.M.
The German craftsman
gets up.
He goes to the bathroom.
Sees himself
in the mirror and focuses:
For the German middle class
it was never so bad
as today!

7:50 A.M.
The Poles
have the first walls
plastered and patched.

8:00 A.M.
The German cratsman
has breakfast.
Then he picks his apprentice up
and sets off to you.
On the way, they both notice
that they must reuel
before the work.
They stop.
Each of them two beers, two corn brandies,
three Jägermeisters.
The working day can start.

9:30 A.M.
The Poles are ready with plastering
the first room in your apartment.
They have been working for four hours
without any brake.
They get a bit tired.

You, dear Chairmen,
propose a break,
but the Poles have
their own method.

They unscrew a power outlet.
Each packs once quickly on the contacts.
Afterwards, they are back awaken
and continue working.

9:35 A.M.
You hear a doorbell.
It's the German craftsman
waiting in front of your door.

He looks like
the fat brother
from Wildecker Herzbuben,
wears an apron
and a T-shirt under it
with a text:
"Beer formed this beutiful body!"

His trousers hang so low
that you can see
his buttocks,
so called
"bricklayer's decolletage".

He welcomes you saying:
"I am the company Pütz.
Are you the clogged U-bend?"

You nod and
let him in.

10:15 A.M.
The Poles are ready
with plastering
the second room.

10:20 A.M.
The German craftsman
looks at the clogged U-bend
and says the
classic craftsman's text:

"Oh, oh, oh, oh dat's expensive!"

An important text.
Each "Oh" means for you,
dear Chairman,
50 euro more
than it was agreed
in the price proposal.

"Oh, oh, oh, oh dat's expensive!"

is one of the four text
which a German craftsman
learns during his education.

The other three texts are:

"At your place
I would have all of that
done from scratch again!"

"It wasn't me.
It was already broken!"

and

"Do you necessarily
need a bill?"

After the assesment
of the U-bend
the cratsman stands up
and makes
a breakfast break.

11:00 A.M.
The Poles begin to put wallpapers.

11:30 A.M.
The German craftsman
returns from the breakfast break
and starts dealing
with the U-bend.
His apprentice stands next to him.

The German craftsmen
come, generally, always
with an apprentice,
because the German craft
is, traditionally,
structured hierarchically.

Above on the top,
the master stands,
then comes the journeyman,
then comes the apprentice,
and then, dear Chairman,
comes you.

What is the function
of the apprentice
is not yet known.

In most cases
he only stands stupidly
like in 100 meters distance
and has his mouth open.

At leat 80%
of the German apprentices
in the craft
have their mouths open
for the whole working day.

Ethnologists suppose
that it is a
security system.
As long as the apprentice
has his mouth open,
the master knows that he still
breathes and lives.

It is not to determine
from his movements,
because while the master works,
the apprentice stands without any motion,
stiff next to him,
from which also the term
"Standord Deutschland" is derived.

The German apprentice
moves so little
that the craftsmen's unions
recommend the apprentices on duty
wearing anti-thrombosis stockings.

11:45 A.M.
The Poles tile the bathroom.

11:50 A.M.
The German craftsman
determines
that he misses a pipe sleeve.
He sends the apprentice
to the car.

You calculate the movement speed
of the apprentice, including
the way there and back
to the car high
and wish him
till you see him again
Happy Easter,
Merry Christmas
and Happy New Year.

The master stays,
looks at you and determines
that he is thirsty.
You offer him a glass of water.
His answer:
"I don't want to wash myself.
I am thursty."

12:15 P.M.
A small crisis with
the Polish craftsmen.
Franek made a mistake.
It happened to him,
dear Chairman,
that he came frome your kitchen
and annouced proudly:

"Sauna is ready, dear master!"

With a look at the kitchen
you determine that he
has put the laminate on the walls
and the ingrain wallpaper on the floor.

12:20 P.M.
The German apprentice
returns with a sleeve.
He has, of course,
taken a wrong sleeve.
The right one is not there.
The master sends him back.
He is supposed to hurtle to a DIY store
and buy a fitting sleeve.

The apprentice hurtles out.
You think about the wages
of both and
understand for the first time
from what the word
"Muffensausen" ("pipe sleeve hurtle" - meaning fear)
comes.


1:30 P.M.
Franek has brought the kitchen
back to order
and replaced all the wiring
in the apartment.

3:00 P.M.
After his lunch break,
the German craftsman
applies his pipe wrench on the U-bend
and screws up his face in pain.
This is for you,
dear Chairman,
a critical moment.

Whan a
German craftsman
screws up his face
in pain,
it is an absolute emergency case
on which you must react
immediately
in only one way.

Ignore it,
dear Chairman!
Look somewhere else!
Pretend that you haven't noticed
anything!
You, dear Chairman,
make a cardinal error
and ask the craftsman:
"What ails you?"
The answer:

"Calcification in elbows.
Awful, do you know dat?
I have been already at thousand doctors.
If only I explain dat to you.
Boy, go, please, to the car
and bring the X-ray photos."

3:10 P.M.
Bolek and his group
are ready.
Your apartment is
renovated and clean.
Everything costs together
200 euro.
They, Poles,
drive now further on
to Munich to their
next construction site.

3:50 P.M.
You,
dear Chairman,
have heard the whole
history of the present illness
of the German craftsman,
his family, his friends,
his dachshund and the family
and friends of his dachshund.

You know his hemorrhoids
better than he knows your U-bend.
The reason of his diseases,
you know, of course, too.
The work, the stress, the pressure,
which he has as a middle class man.

This unbelievable pressure.
And those unhuman taxes.
If he didn't, basically,
work illegally,
he couldn't pay them at all.
And the red-green government.
It hits his mind.

He cannot eat any more,
cannot drink any more.
He doesn't want any more
to have sex with his wife.

When he drinks his seventh beer,
you wonder, der Chairman,
how the craftsman have sex in general.
Do they call, having orgasm,
"Dear, I am coming",
or do they call
"Dear, be ready.
I come between 8 and 14."
And do they charge, in addition, for the travel?

Suddenly,
the watch
of the craftsman beeps.

3:58 P.M.
End of work!

You become stressed.
Your U-bend.
You propose that
the craftsman could
simply work
a little bit longer.

But the master and the apprentice
look at you like
two teletubbies.
Mind researchers have discovered
that the word combination
"longer" and "work"
cannot be put together syntactically
by a German craftsman
so that it makes any sense to him.

So both of them pack up
and ask you,
in total, for
420 euro
for the working day.

And the U-bend
which they both
will yet repair.
They will come
again soon.
Be ready, basically,
between May and September!

Thank you very much!
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I've finally ordered my brand new car :-) looking forward to it.
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That's it? You're not sharing the brand, the specs etc. with us?
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A Skoda maybe?

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Haha... you missed.
This one. Hope my gf will like it. I have already promised to dust it.
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