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Old July 17th, 2017, 07:40 PM   #36541
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They don't exactly use plywood from the local hardware store.

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Old July 17th, 2017, 07:53 PM   #36542
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I'm sorry, but do you honestly think they just place those things down before doing research into them?


Sigh.

Fair point.
I was thinking out loud. No need to be rude.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 08:03 PM   #36543
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Okay, phrased better: It seems, intuitively, that wood would be more likely to shatter. I guess I'm wondering why that's not the case, or what disadvantage to metal I'm missing.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 08:09 PM   #36544
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Most likely a cost thing.
Though I'm reading that at least some of the Dutch ones are mainly steel with a wooden layer on top for aesthetics.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 08:46 PM   #36545
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If you plan to buy an HTC phone - don't do it. It is a piece of crap. First it started to do a reckless updates (just deleted all my wallpaper shortcuts), then it changed my ringtones (without my permission) and now, it keeps changing things (predominantly to make it worse).

What made me feel bad most is this: A flash-screen keeps on showing at times to inform me, that the operational system needs to have access to my contacts, etc. and I am supposed to confirm it. When I do it, it just inform me about some failure and after few minutes it all goes on and on.

Never buy it.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 10:42 PM   #36546
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I have bought a OnePlus 5 one month ago and so far I've been very happy with it. I like that it almost doesn't have bloatware while making Android more flexible to allow useful customization of stuff like double tapping capacitive buttons and gestures.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 10:53 PM   #36547
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Ringtones? Is that still a thing? I rarely make an actual phone call these days, I didn't even bother to set the ringtone to anything other than the default it came with. Everybody uses text messages nowadays. I only use Whatsapp though, not Facebook Messenger or other platforms. Whatsapp has an extremely high penetration rate in the Netherlands, virtually everybody uses it.
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Old July 17th, 2017, 11:48 PM   #36548
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I also don't make phone calls anymore, I just use WhatsApp (which I hispanicize to Guasap, like I do with other things).
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Old July 18th, 2017, 01:07 AM   #36549
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When you think that using the hard shoulder to escape a traffic jam isn't [email protected] enough.

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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old July 18th, 2017, 01:46 AM   #36550
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I still make phone calls.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 07:49 AM   #36551
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Ringtones? Is that still a thing? I rarely make an actual phone call these days, I didn't even bother to set the ringtone to anything other than the default it came with. Everybody uses text messages nowadays. I only use Whatsapp though, not Facebook Messenger or other platforms. Whatsapp has an extremely high penetration rate in the Netherlands, virtually everybody uses it.
I do make phone calls. And even though I do not insist on having a customized ringtone like some crazy teen, I am really accustomed to have a default one. And it is pretty annoying when you hear some phone ringing convinced that it is not yours and after an awkward time you realized it is your mobile that suddenly opted for a different ringtone.

It has happened to me three times.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 03:27 PM   #36552
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Everybody uses text messages nowadays.
People still mostly call other people these days. I have a custom ring tone and tons of calls every day - mostly for work, but still ...
Usually you can't be efficient enough without real conversation.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 04:51 PM   #36553
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Old July 18th, 2017, 06:28 PM   #36554
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I have bought a OnePlus 5 one month ago and so far I've been very happy with it. I like that it almost doesn't have bloatware while making Android more flexible to allow useful customization of stuff like double tapping capacitive buttons and gestures.
i am observing it very much to buy it, although my OP1 still works perfectly.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 01:30 PM   #36555
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This was yesterday on our main commercial TV news - report about incoming heatwave:

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How not to forget your child in the car
Advices from National institute for public health

- put an object on the seat beside a child which you will need at first when you arrive at your destination
- set up a reminder on your telephone that you need to leave your child at child care
- before you leave your car, open the back door and check if a child is in in the car
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Idiocracy at its best
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Old July 20th, 2017, 06:24 PM   #36556
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How popular is WhatsApp in your country? In the Netherlands it is considerably more popular than Facebook;

Population: 17 million
* 12.1 million people have WhatsApp installed
** 11 million people use it at least once per week
** 9.6 million people use it at least once per day
* 7.1 million people have Facebook installed

So over half of the population uses it daily and the amount of people using WhatsApp on their phone is 70% higher than those who have Facebook installed.

Facebook also uses its MAU metric - monthly active users. These are people who use it at least once per month. But it doesn't say much about the actual usage of an app. Most Dutch people I have on Facebook are not active at all, with many posting less than once per month.

Engagement on Facebook seems extremely low, for example the Dutch public broadcaster NOS has 675,000 likes on Facebook but posts generally get only a few thousand likes at best, with many staying under 500 likes even after a few hours. That's extremely low compared to the amount of people following that page, not to mention compared to the amount of people who use Facebook.

Maybe the same rule applies as on internet forums; a small percentage of users is responsible for a large percentage of content and engagement.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 06:32 PM   #36557
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I mostly use Facebook Messenger. This is because it has the advantage of audio and video calling (I sometimes video call with my family in Romania) and I can always start a conversation on the phone and later continue it on the computer (text, audio and video). Plus that I have teached my parents and also my wife's parents how to use it to keep in touch with me and my wife.

I have installed also WhatsApp as some of my work colleagues (including 2 of my bosses) are using it and sometimes I need to be in touch with them.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 07:09 PM   #36558
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I think WhatsApp also has video call.
It even has a computer web version. But it won't work if you don't have your phone on (you also have to start the app on it from time to time).

I grew up with Mirc and Yahoo Messenger, both on the PC, I'm not a fac of smartphone chatting. I aviod it as often as I can and use the PC. If not I prefer calling the person and discussing what there is to discuss to writing hundreds of words on the smartphone
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Old July 20th, 2017, 07:17 PM   #36559
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I use WhatsApp Web a lot. I'm not a huge fan of typing a lot on my phone. Typing is slow and multitasking is cumbersome.

I think the popularity of the smart phone has a downside; content quality goes down a lot. Apart from the vertical video syndrome, people also don't bother to put much effort in messages typed on a phone, whether in a chat or on an internet forum. It's extremely cumbersome to type up a well-researched forum post with links and images. Not to mention the resolution problem. Phone print screens are ugly on a computer screen.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 07:58 PM   #36560
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I use Whatsapp but I find it to be somewhat cumbersome, especially in backupping and restoring conversations, or using on different devices.
I prefer Telegram, it has the same features, it is a lot faster and has no problems running on different devices at the same time.

I think you cannot compare Whatsapp and Facebook, their purpose is a lot different.
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