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Old July 22nd, 2017, 10:08 PM   #36581
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In other news, I currently have a Facebook friend (or friend of a friend), a German citizen born in Scotland, "correcting" me for saying Alsace is French. Whatever....
Annoying prick.
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Old July 22nd, 2017, 10:11 PM   #36582
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That's an alternative fact, right?
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Old July 22nd, 2017, 10:21 PM   #36583
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I'm just anticipating an inevitable and predictable round of Europeans displaying their intelligence by generalizing from one person's mistake to an entire population of 300 million's intelligence.
No, I think she is above average. Most "American" had not known anything about Yugoslavia and history...

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Old July 22nd, 2017, 10:27 PM   #36584
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No, I think she is above average. Most "American" had not known anything about Yugoslavia and history...



Maybe she was subconsciously trying to avoid an argument about what to call the other component of the ex-Czechoslovakia.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 12:11 AM   #36585
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Slovenia or Slovakia have a smaller population and area than Missouri. Where Americans tend to think of Europe as one country, Europeans tend to underestimate the diversity of the United States. In some ways U.S. states have more jurisdiction than countries in the European Union.

For example with road planning, U.S. states can use their own environmental approval process if no federal funding is involved. But European countries all have their environmental approval process based on EU directives.
I don't think that's relevant when you consider the following:

1. She made a statement (if you don't know, check it out or be quiet and there will be no outrage),
2. We live in the era of the Internet where it's easy to find anything quickly,
3. She's a political commentator with a Harvard degree.

But that tweet wasn't even that bad, this is much worse:



On top of that she has this written in her Tweeter profile:

“Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.” - James Baldwin

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Old July 23rd, 2017, 12:20 AM   #36586
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Well, why can't you choose more distinctive names for your new countries?!

Anyhow, a Slovene won a stage in the Tour de France the other day. Whereas a Slovak (unfairly in my opinion) was disqualified a couple of weeks ago.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 12:22 AM   #36587
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What about Slavonia then?
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 12:38 AM   #36588
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The roadside rest area

Seriously, I just did about five minutes' research (because I hadn't heard of this until italystf posted it): The biggest problem with that tweet may be that - well, I'm being careful here - some people seem to be taking it as if she's trying to imply that Trump's marriages to two "Soviet" women confirms suspicions of his collusion with Russia. If so, there's a lot wrong with that....
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 12:49 AM   #36589
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There is no such thing as 'Soviet Yugoslavia'. Yugoslavia was never part of the Soviet Union and cut ties with the Soviet Union in 1948, the so-called Tito-Stalin Split

In addition, Ivana was not from the Slovak part of Czechoslovakia, but from Zlín, in present-day Czechia (or Czech Republic if you will).
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 01:06 AM   #36590
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President Gerald Ford got in trouble for saying Poland was "not under Soviet domination." It may have lost him the 1976 election.

I wouldn't say (in a pre-1989 context) "Soviet Poland," though. "Communist," "Soviet-dominated".... One of my biggest peeves with Democrats lately (and I'm a Democrat myself) is that so many of them think today's Russia is ideologically equivalent to the Soviet Union....

And I despise Trump, but I don't care about his personal life, and don't criticize members of his family just for being members of his family. And Ivana Trump (wife number 1 or 2) is no more responsible for 1970s Czechoslovak politics than Martina Navratilova is.

Okay, I'm done now. For now.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 02:11 AM   #36591
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Here in the West many people still associate Eastern Europe countries with Russia, not realizing that most of those countries are now politically aligned with the West (EU, NATO, multi-party elections,...) and hate Russia much more than us westerners.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 09:53 AM   #36592
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The thing is that "soviet" an "socialist" is not the same though sometimes interchanged. Soviet is usually referred to the Soviet Union while socialist is referred to the Eastern bloc (if spoken in terms of Europe). As has already been told, Yugoslavia or Albania were socialist countries though completely refused the "soviet model".

I would say, the notion of "soviet" is an adjective for Soviet Union the same way the "American" is sometimes an adjective for the USA.
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Old July 23rd, 2017, 02:51 PM   #36593
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What about Slavonia then?
or even better - adverb Slavonic as reffering to Slavs, not to Slavonia
English is sometims really annoying
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....English is sometims really annoying


That's how we keep people on their toes. :-)
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Seriously, though, I think I've only seen "Slavonic" in historical-linguistic contexts...the "Old Church Slavonic" language that was (still is?) used in the Orthodox Church and so on....
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Hi guys!
Where can I find pictures of Karawanke tunnel during Yugoslav civil war in the 90's?
I read on Wikipedia that custom and toll houses were destroyed,but I couldn't find any pictures.
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Well, why can't you choose more distinctive names for your new countries?!
New? Oh please, grandpa. Anyway, we should've blocked Slovakia from joining the eurozone for using such a similar name. It should be called the former Czechoslovak Republic of Slovakia.
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New? Oh please, grandpa. Anyway, we should've blocked Slovakia from joining the eurozone for using such a similar name. It should be called the former Czechoslovak Republic of Slovakia.


FCROS. Pronounced "EFF-cross."
Has a ring to it.
Better than FCROTCR (Former Czechoslovak Republic of the Czech Republic)
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Is it true that for BOTH of them, the adjective is Slovenski or something like that?
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FCROS. Pronounced "EFF-cross."
Has a ring to it.
Better than FCROTCR (Former Czechoslovak Republic of the Czech Republic)
Former Czechoslovak Republic of Czechia - FCROC (ef-croc(odile)).

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Is it true that for BOTH of them, the adjective is Slovenski or something like that?
In Slovenian it's "slovenski", while in Slovak it's "slovenský" (nominative, singular, masculine). Slovenian and Slovak woman is both called "Slovenka" in respective languages.
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