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Old August 30th, 2017, 09:53 PM   #36801
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I like how you went through rarely travelled (by foreigners) areas of the USA such as Nebraska.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:00 PM   #36802
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@keber: I see that you have been to Page, Arizona (Antelope Canyon) and Navajo Monument Valley. These 2 were my favorite parts of my modest 4000 km roadtrip that I took last year in USA.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:08 PM   #36803
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Rarely travelled by foreigners, but not forgotten - there are quite some with rented cars and RVs but much much less of them than in western national parks. Actually there I thought that half of Europe arrived into USA.
Nebraska with good weather statistics was destination for seeing solar eclipse. And Nashville was one of the must-see cities.
Eclipse moment with diamond ring with my rather average camera:
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:14 PM   #36804
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Rarely travelled by foreigners, but not forgotten - there are quite some with rented cars and RVs but much much less of them than in western national parks. Actually there I thought that half of Europe arrived into USA
I heard a lot of people speaking german on the west coast. Funny thing was that I was speaking Romanian with my wife, and they didn't knew that I can understand what they were talking (after 3 years of living in Austria I learned it, although I'm still not quite fluent)
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:22 PM   #36805
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@keber: I see that you have been to Page, Arizona (Antelope Canyon) and Navajo Monument Valley. These 2 were my favorite parts of my modest 4000 km roadtrip that I took last year in USA.
Antelope Canyon was fully booked already some weeks in advance, so we visited just Horseshoe curve of Colorado River. Monument Valley was spectacular, I agree. Yellowstone park is also very nice, but for me nothing more than alpine style altitude forest with spruces, rivers and lakes all over like in many countries in Europe, just with added geysers.
If you don't plan too much, you can visit or experience some side marvels, like we did with Ogden Airforce museum (they have Blackbird ), local country dance party or rodeo, or amazing sunsets over Grand Canyon valley, Capitol Reef canyons and plains of Nebraska, when you're very late with particular day journey.
As for cost, rental cars and accommodation are about twice more expensive than in other months.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:32 PM   #36806
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The roadside rest area

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Antelope Canyon was fully booked already some weeks in advance, so we visited just Horseshoe curve of Colorado River. Monument Valley was spectacular, I agree.


We didn't book before, but we searched locally for a guide. As it was October, we found it quite easy.



Horseshoe bend and Monument Valley are spectacular indeed... Also Capital Reef is cool (we walked down into it, although it was quite scarry as rocks might fall down at any time). I have never experienced such amazing (extraterestial I would say) sceneries before.


Due to time constraints we had to cut something off the list, so we didn't go to Yellowstone as from the pictures and reviews we found it quite similar to what we can find in the Austrian Alps, as you also mentioned.


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As for cost, rental cars and accommodation are about twice more expensive than in other months.


As I said, we were there in October, so the costs were affordable. Also the weather was really nice.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:38 PM   #36807
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Maybe some of other forumers don't understand exactly what we're talking about (Monument Valley, Horseshoe bend, Capital Reef... what's that???). I think I should share some pictures with the most important attractions:

Horseshoe bend:



Monument Valley:





Arches National Park:



Capital Reef:




I walked down there. Pretty scarry to be honest.

My wife will have to write about these experiences on day on her blog...
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Old August 30th, 2017, 10:49 PM   #36808
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Last two are from Bryce NP. Capitol Reef is quite different.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 11:07 PM   #36809
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Yes, you are right. My mistake.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 11:32 PM   #36810
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Antelope Canyon was fully booked already some weeks in advance, so we visited just Horseshoe curve of Colorado River. Monument Valley was spectacular, I agree. Yellowstone park is also very nice, but for me nothing more than alpine style altitude forest with spruces, rivers and lakes all over like in many countries in Europe, just with added geysers.
If you don't plan too much, you can visit or experience some side marvels, like we did with Ogden Airforce museum (they have Blackbird ), local country dance party or rodeo, or amazing sunsets over Grand Canyon valley, Capitol Reef canyons and plains of Nebraska, when you're very late with particular day journey.
As for cost, rental cars and accommodation are about twice more expensive than in other months.
What I think a lot of people go to Yellowstone for, besides weird natural things like the geysers, is wildlife. Bison, bears and so on.

Where did you see the eclipse? (We got 79% coverage in Philadelphia - I just went to a nearby park to watch - but a cloud parked over it; it was sunny half an hour earlier.)
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Old August 30th, 2017, 11:53 PM   #36811
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This photo was on the cover of a copybook I had years ago.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 11:57 PM   #36812
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- signs on interstates, which food, gas and accommodation companies await you at the next exit (there are no such rest areas as in Europe)
I've read that there is an old law (maybe even from Eisenhower years) that, for some reasons I don't know, forbids rest areas along non-tolled interstates.

However, leaving and re-entering an untolled motorway at an exit is not a big deal, not more than using a bi-directional rest area like they have in Austria.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 12:03 AM   #36813
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When Congress was considering funding the Interstate system, some members were concerned about its effects on businesses in small towns with a lot of tourist traffic. So they did in fact prohibit businesses in the right of way, so that people have to get off for gas or food. But this hasn't led to protecting those towns, really, just to clusters of gas stations and the like at exits.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 12:16 AM   #36814
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This photo was on the cover of a copybook I had years ago.
We couldn't find where this photo was taken. Surely it was not around Monument valley entrance.
Also l was surprised at equipment of new cars. They all have automatic transmission, satellite radio and really large space for baggage, but no LED lights, no park, rain or light sensors not even automatic air conditioning, all of this are features in almost all new EU economy cars.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 01:05 AM   #36815
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We couldn't find where this photo was taken. Surely it was not around Monument valley entrance.

This is approaching from the Utah side, somewhere around here: https://www.google.at/maps/@37.10133...8!8i1664?hl=de
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Old August 31st, 2017, 07:24 AM   #36816
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We couldn't find where this photo was taken. Surely it was not around Monument valley entrance.

We googled quite a lot before the trip until we managed to get this exact location. I saved the GPS coordinates and we drove there just for that picture.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 05:25 PM   #36817
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We didn't google, we thought it is quite obvius but apparently it wasn't now I see we should drive just about 5 miles further of our furthest point and we would see it. But central Monument Valley is so much better that we didn't even want to search a lot.
As for Capitol Reef NP, it is this:

You can even drive into canyons where many western movies were shot.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 06:23 PM   #36818
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I'm bathing in the Italian sea for the first time (Sistiana). Not much difference though since half the people speak Slovenian.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 06:49 PM   #36819
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Are you sure it's not Croatian? They seem to want it whole
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So Via Michelin revamped its map engine a bit. It now has an updated cartographic base that shows mostly fine on small-ish-scale zoom (think 200km across a screen). They at least show the road hierarchies in a nice and distinctive way, something Google Maps or Bing don't. I noticed some zoom levels still show main roads in old alignments (in cases where old alignments became a secondary route after some new bypass shown as the secondary one). Probably a bug they are ironing out.

It's great to see they have not given up completely on cartography.
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