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Old August 31st, 2017, 09:32 PM   #36821
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I'm currently in France, half the sights I've seen I found through the Michelin road atlas. So much more detail and information than Google Maps. Google Maps is only good if you know in advance where you want to go to. I found great passes, gorges and viewpoints and scenic routes with Michelin. Google maps has no such information...
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Old August 31st, 2017, 09:39 PM   #36822
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Old August 31st, 2017, 10:10 PM   #36823
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I'm currently in France, half the sights I've seen I found through the Michelin road atlas. So much more detail and information than Google Maps. Google Maps is only good if you know in advance where you want to go to. I found great passes, gorges and viewpoints and scenic routes with Michelin. Google maps has no such information...
My greatest use of Michelin maps is exactly to find scenic drives and, years ago, less known attraction. Now TripAdvisor often takes care of attractions, yet Michelin scenic drives are usually quite good picks (in Europe, that is). They also have these 2D terrain projections that give you an idea of what and where are you driving, whether a road is a modern alignment or some interesting valley drive. They also used to show the opening and closing dates of mountain passes in older editions.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 11:00 PM   #36824
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Longest possible drive on Google Maps
Wrong.
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Citt...59.5611525!3e0
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 11:31 PM   #36825
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Are you sure it's not Croatian? They seem to want it whole
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we wanted only those 3 squids from Piran. that's not that greedy.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:02 AM   #36826
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I'm currently in France, half the sights I've seen I found through the Michelin road atlas. So much more detail and information than Google Maps. Google Maps is only good if you know in advance where you want to go to. I found great passes, gorges and viewpoints and scenic routes with Michelin. Google maps has no such information...
I also own one, and I found the Dune of Pilat near Bordeaux using the same method.
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But that includes a ferry. It could be actually possible to do it totally overland if Israel wasn't in the middle.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:39 AM   #36827
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But that includes a ferry. It could be actually possible to do it totally overland if Israel wasn't in the middle.
The borders between Israel and Egypt/Jordan can be crossed. The problem is that many other Muslim countries reject passports with Israeli stamps or Egyptian/Jordanian stamps issued at Israeli borders. So, you need two passports to do that.
Another problem is that some countries are totally off-limits for driving. You can't go to Syria and Iraq due to wars and it's not possible for foreigners to travel independly in Saudi Arabia. So these three countries block any possible route between Africa and Asia.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 12:55 AM   #36828
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I'm currently in France, half the sights I've seen I found through the Michelin road atlas. So much more detail and information than Google Maps. Google Maps is only good if you know in advance where you want to go to. I found great passes, gorges and viewpoints and scenic routes with Michelin. Google maps has no such information...
I hope paper maps never disappear. (For one thing, can you imagine, 20 or 30 years after they did, trying to track the history of development and roads in a given area?) I did find GPS in my rental car on my second European trip helpful, not for directions, but to confirm where I was (approaching a confusing intersection or after a point of confusion); otherwise I've never used it.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 01:38 AM   #36829
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Wouldn't it be longer to go through Scandinavia to Russia, not to mention taking longer roads and making different zig-zags through Europe and Asia?
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Old September 1st, 2017, 01:58 AM   #36830
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it's not possible for foreigners to travel independly in Saudi Arabia.
Not entirely true.

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Old September 1st, 2017, 02:40 AM   #36831
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The borders between Israel and Egypt/Jordan can be crossed. The problem is that many other Muslim countries reject passports with Israeli stamps or Egyptian/Jordanian stamps issued at Israeli borders. So, you need two passports to do that.
Another problem is that some countries are totally off-limits for driving. You can't go to Syria and Iraq due to wars and it's not possible for foreigners to travel independly in Saudi Arabia. So these three countries block any possible route between Africa and Asia.
Israel does not stamp passports unless requested for this reason, instead visa is given on a discrete piece of paper.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 10:58 AM   #36832
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Israel does not stamp passports unless requested for this reason, instead visa is given on a discrete piece of paper.
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It may work if you enter by plane. If you enter by road, you'll still have Egyptian or Jordan border stamp as evidence to your visit in Israel.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 10:59 AM   #36833
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I hope paper maps never disappear. (For one thing, can you imagine, 20 or 30 years after they did, trying to track the history of development and roads in a given area?)
Google Earth works fine for that purpose, it allows to see older satellite imagery.
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Wouldn't it be longer to go through Scandinavia to Russia, not to mention taking longer roads and making different zig-zags through Europe and Asia?
It doesn't count as it isn't a logical route.
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Old September 1st, 2017, 11:10 AM   #36835
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we wanted only those 3 squids from Piran. that's not that greedy.
Nobody from Italy wants Istria and Rjieka back, except for a very marginal political party. The government of Croatia does not want some squids, but to close access to international waters to Slovenia.

I'm not serious here, this is a joke post, in case the mood wasn't clear
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I am sure there are some Sanmarinese longing for Rimini to become part of their Republic
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Old September 1st, 2017, 04:51 PM   #36837
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Nobody from Italy wants Istria and Rjieka back, except for a very marginal political party. The government of Croatia does not want some squids, but to close access to international waters to Slovenia.

I'm not serious here, this is a joke post, in case the mood wasn't clear
and you really think that people here give the **** about Piran?

(my post was also in ironic mode, don't worry)
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Google Earth works fine for that purpose, it allows to see older satellite imagery.
Where is the link for that? A few days ago, someone on TV was showing how the area around the Houston reservoirs has developed since they were built; there was a Google Earth or Google Maps credit on the screen, but I can't find how to turn that on.

But still, I hope paper maps don't disappear any time soon.
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Where is the link for that? A few days ago, someone on TV was showing how the area around the Houston reservoirs has developed since they were built; there was a Google Earth or Google Maps credit on the screen, but I can't find how to turn that on.

But still, I hope paper maps don't disappear any time soon.
You need to download Google Earth software, it can't be done on the browser.
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and you really think that people here give the **** about Piran?
Then why do you fight endlessly for that little piece of sea?
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