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Old November 16th, 2017, 06:43 PM   #37501
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Old November 16th, 2017, 10:44 PM   #37502
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Old November 18th, 2017, 04:14 PM   #37504
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I have noticed an improvement with this update: until now all secondary roads looked almost the same. Now they come in 3 different thicknesses, so you know which secondary road is of higher grade, and which is just an unpaved road or a very low grade road.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 09:23 PM   #37505
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Okay, so I’m watching a Francophone Swiss newscast, and I see a five-digit number written with an apostrophe: 34’980 or something.
Is that normal in Switzerland, or a quirk of Radio-télévision suisse’s graphics department?
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Old November 18th, 2017, 09:30 PM   #37506
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It is a thousands separator used in Switzerland, similar to 1,000 or 1.000, depending on the country.
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Old November 18th, 2017, 10:48 PM   #37507
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Old November 18th, 2017, 10:56 PM   #37508
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Aachen - Kassel is now A448 according to Google Maps:

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Old November 19th, 2017, 02:03 PM   #37510
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I found an Andorran €1 coin! They do exist! I believe I can pay €1 + VAT (€1.21 in Spain) with it .
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I have noticed an improvement with this update: until now all secondary roads looked almost the same. Now they come in 3 different thicknesses, so you know which secondary road is of higher grade, and which is just an unpaved road or a very low grade road.
Are you sure? They appear to have tied that to box color in Spain, resulting in good roads like A-2402 appearing thinner than goat paths like A-220 between Carińena and Fuendetodos (In that case I'm even not sure if there's actually a road ).
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Old November 19th, 2017, 04:01 PM   #37511
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At least near my hometown in Romania and in the area where I currently live in Austria, the new map is more accurate.
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Old November 19th, 2017, 08:43 PM   #37512
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I help my friend with desktop publishing to finish his book about the history of public transport in Bratislava and I have come across some old timetables from 20s. The most interesting thing is the displaying of time of the operation. It reads: the line X operates from 8 to ˝20 hour (I guess it is 19:30 :-) ).
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Old November 21st, 2017, 12:11 AM   #37513
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Breaking news from Spain.

Have read that it is to change car plates colour for taxis, where includes uber, cabify, any other company with licence and special licences for cars with driver.
They will be blue instead of white.

Wanna avoid fake taxis who gets tourists. Will recommend to take only blue plate cars only. Never mind company or service but legal.
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 01:27 AM   #37514
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The roadside rest area

I have just spotted in Dublin, Ireland, a car registered in Victoria, Australia. That’s a record drive!

I miss the weird license plates thread...
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Old November 22nd, 2017, 07:11 PM   #37515
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Sanos was from Skopje the factory that dealed with buses around SFRY and the communist bloc.
What is interesting about this is that YU had deals with many West countries and also with Libya and they were exported even there.



And.... As you can see many communist countries had their own large state industries that produced cars, buses and rail cars and almost nothing was imported from the West or from China.
There is still something in this export to African countries, because when a few years ago Russia finally finished the production of Lada 2107 (or 2105, I am not sure):



it was still produced in Egypt for some time.

By the way, it might be one of the longest produced models of personal cars in the world. And it seems that it was also one of the last still produced cars with carburetor instead of computer-controlled fuel injection.

And this is the first car I remember we had at home. We still had it until something like 2005, maybe 2010, but it was already a rare car in Poland.

Concerning the buses, in Poland Sanos buses were used as higher end ones for longest distances. For shorter distances, there were buses produced by Jelcz and Autosan. As regional connections, most common were (and quite often still are) Autosan H9. They were also used as city buses in smaller towns, while the cities were dominated by Jelcz and Ikarus.

Sanos buses in Poland (still in operation about 2007):







Jelcz PR110D - also used as higher end bus:



Jelcz PR110M city bus - there was something French in it, actually it was produced on a licence of Berliet:



And... Jelcz M11 city bus - combination of Jelcz PR110/Beriet bodywork and Ikarus 260 chassis:



Autosan H9-21 regional bus, still one of the most popular regional bus models in Poland:



and Autosan H9-35, so its city version:





I don't post Ikarus buses, as most users probably know them. But we also had... Ikarus-Zemun, which was not Hungarian at all, but Yugoslavian. And those buses were assembled in Poland by Jelcz:





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Old November 23rd, 2017, 12:26 AM   #37516
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Regarding public transport we relied on Czech brands:

Karosa for buses:


Tatra for trams (I would say they were rather successful):


Skoda for trolleybuses:


Indeed the most frequent were notorious Ikaruses (from Hungary), especially model 28x

(i used to hate them, now I kinda miss them)

But we also had a period with post-soviet Ikaruses, model 4x5:


Moreover we experimented with Slovenian brand TAM that went to bankrupt soon after the first delivery:


The newest trams in Bratislava are still made by Skoda


While the newest buses and trolleybuses are made by SOR (Czech manufacturer):



Besides we have few Mercedeses and also some Polish Solarises.

We also had few troleybusses from Sanos, because, if I am not mistaken that time they were the first articulated trolleybuses made in Eastern Bloc (provided that Yugoslavia was perceived like that - still beter then the West according to our politicians). I think Skoda lauched they first articulated trolleybuses as late as mid 1980s. They did not ended up very well in Bratislava, however one is to be reconstructed as a historical vehicle.

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In Poland we had, for sure, Russian trolleybuses made by ZIU (quite a funny sounding name, especially read with the Polish pronunciation, unfortunately impossible to express exactly in English for lack of soft consonants, but write "ziu" in Google Translate, turn it to Polish and click the loudspeaker button), but also some by Jelcz. I also read that, for example, Lublin used to have some Ikarus 280T articulated trolleybuses (you can still see them on the line in Budapest).

In Łódź we never had the post-communist Ikarus buses, but some Polish cities used them. However, Ikarus buses turned out to be very durable and only recently our MPK finished with them.

In the early 1990s we had an episode with imported second-hand Mercedes O305 buses and their equivalents from other manufacturers. But they didn't last long. I was first appearing in Łódź from time to time around 1998-2000 and I never saw them in the city.

Here is a photo of two O305G (and an Ikarus 280 behind):



They were used between 1994 and 1998, while the last Ikarus served on a line in September 2015.

Concerning the trams, Czech Republic currently seems to be really determined to buy Skoda units. In Poland we have some Skoda trams in Wrocław, bought in 2006 and 2010.

First modern low-floor trams in Poland were bought from Bombardier, and also by Alstom (who bought out the Konstal factory in Chorzów, which produced all the trams in Poland in the communist era). But later, when Polish cities started buying modern trams on a larger scale, Pesa from Bydgoszcz (formerly - one of the railway rolling stock renovation workshops) dominated the Polish tram market. Furthermore, Solaris has its Tramino, but for now, they didn't manage to market them in Poland on a larger scale. If I am not mistaken, only Olsztyn (with its totally new tram network, open something like a year or two ago) uses their trams, and they also sold them to one or two cities in Germany. Newag (second big rail rolling stock manufacturer in Poland, comparable with Pesa, and also former train renovation workshops which extended its profile to manufacturing new trains after 1989) has its Nevelo, which had its premiere in 2012, but until now no city decided to buy their trams, so there is only one prototype. This year, also Modertrans in Poznań, until now specializing in modernizing the Konstal trams and producing new high-floor trams with a low-floor part based on modified Konstal 105Na chassis, joined the manufacturers of low-floor trams with their Moderus Gamma model. Poznań has ordered 50 units from them.

But in the communist era, almost the only trams used in Poland were Konstal.

From Konstal N (normal gauge)/2N (narrow gauge) /prod. 1948-1956/:



its developed version 4N (normal gauge)/5N (narrow gauge) /prod. 1956-1962/:



to more modern, then so called "fast" trams, such as:

- 13N (used only in Warsaw, used till the end of 2012, and just single units in Upper Silesia and Poznań) /prod. 1959-1969/



- 102N (normal gauge)/802N (narrow gauge) /prod. 1967-1970/



- 102Na (normal gauge)/803N (narrow gauge) /prod. 1970-1974/



The trams of this type were used in Łódź until 2012. This was the first tram type of this "modern" (more moderns than the N generation) series delivered on a mass scale to Łódź. Earlier, the 802N units were delivered, but there were only 5 of them in Łódź and they stopped using them in 1980s.

And then you have...

(there was also 105N/805N in between, but they were very similar to 105Na/805Na)

- 105Na (normal gauge)/805Na (narrow gauge) /prod. 1979-1992/

They are still the most popular tram type in Poland. And, if I am not mistaken, the only city in Poland that doesn't use them is Olsztyn, because it has a brand new tram network with modern low-floor fleet only.



Those streetcars underwent a series of modernizations, some less and some more advanced. They were made either by Konstal (later Alstom-Konstal) itself, or by companies like already mentioned Modertrans from Poznań (which emerged from the workshops of the bus and tram operator in Poznań) or Protram from Wrocław (similar story as with Modertrans). Or by... the bus and tram operator of Łódź - the MPK-Łódź, which also modernized the Konstal trams for other cities.

The only city in communist Poland which bought trams not from Konstal was Warsaw, which bought two Tatra T1 trams in 1955. With an aim of... letting the engineers from Konstal reverse engineer them, and so appeared the Konstal 13N tram model.

Now, we also have Tatra trams in Szczecin, which brought them from Berlin in 2006, 2007 and 2017 when Berlin was replacing them with new trams. They seem to be much better trams than our Konstals, but our Konstals also weren't bad as compared with e.g. the Soviet KTM's. If I am not mistaken, they also produced their own trams in Romania, and their quality was also much lower.

By the way, many Eastern Bloc countries also made their own cars. East Germany had Wartburg and Trabant, we in Poland had first Warszawa and Syrena, later Fiat 125p and 126p, and yet later Polonez (still produced in 1990s), Czechoslovakia had Skoda, Romania had Dacia... If I remember well, Yugoslavia also had something. But I don't think that Hungarians produced any cars. And I know that Fiat 126p was popular there.

Moving to another branch of industry. The Warsaw Television Workshops were still producing TV sets in 1990s, under new brands: Elemis and Unimor. They were really good televisions. I still have one in my room, it still works; if I am not mistaken, it's based on a Philips CRT and some digital electronics by Siemens. Its higher model had even functions like PiP (picture in picture), which is still considered premium in modern TVs. And my one has, for example, a parental control functionality.



Later, after 2000, the Elemis brand was overtaken by the Chinese and they were producing TVs of much lower quality under this brand.
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In Canada like US bus market was usually dominated by GM "Fishbowl" types in this era. But city of Toronto bought some Ikarus buses in mid 1980's, at a time when many "Warsaw Pact" automobiles were being exported to Canada (Lada most popular, but also Skoda, Yugo, Dacia, Aro...). They were a complete disaster and quickly scrapped. It is interesting to see in their domestic countries how these vehicles were more popular but seemed to function better and last much longer on an individual basis. Whereas, say, something like a Mercedes-Benz performs and lasts as long in Germany as Canada, and even longer in Africa...

It's also interesting to see in Poland the variety in terms of performance in cars you see on the road. Few years ago I visited family and noticed the cars of the neighbors. One, Wartburg. Other side, Mercedes CLS 550
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By the way, many Eastern Bloc countries also made their own cars. East Germany had Wartburg and Trabant, we in Poland had first Warszawa and Syrena, later Fiat 125p and 126p, and yet later Polonez (still produced in 1990s), Czechoslovakia had Skoda, Romania had Dacia... If I remember well, Yugoslavia also had something. But I don't think that Hungarians produced any cars. And I know that Fiat 126p was popular there.
In my family we had green fiat 126p in the 80's.
This was a city car in the communism and it was very efficient. There was no struggle for parking as it was very small.


Concerning the bold, SFRY had its own car brand Zastava it was very famous and reliable brand.
The Yugo car was even exported to the US in the late 80's.


And one of the most popular was Zastava 750.
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In my family we had green fiat 126p in the 80's.
This was a city car in the communism and it was very efficient. There was no struggle for parking as it was very small.
As so few people had cars that it simply couldn't be a problem

Some people in my family still have Fiat 126p. Recently, they sold the old one, which was an early version, with the old version of the dashboard (not the one with three switches for lights etc. on both sides of the speedometer), and bought a newer one, probably from late 1990s.

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Concerning the bold, SFRY had its own car brand Zastava it was very famous and reliable brand.
Why was the brand named Zastava?

Because in Polish, "zastawa" means... tableware.



What does this car have to do with plates and vases?

Or what does actually "zastava" mean in Serbo-Croatian?
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