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Old December 2nd, 2017, 08:31 AM   #37581
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Small Yugoslav border town in the 1970's...wonder what it looked like to someone peering in from behind the so-called Iron Curtain?

Vrsac, today Serbia, just a few km from RO border....

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 11:13 AM   #37582
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I really like the Polish "60 at night" law. Pedestrians are rare at such times and relatively distinctive, and traffic is normally running at this speed or more (e.g. 70...). The law should at least recognize reasonable driving by reasonable people (I mean, it's 60 km/h...)
Germany discusses about reducing the speed limit on main streets in build-up areas to 30km/h all day... Not generally but to allow authorities to introduce 30km/h if they think it would be nice...
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 11:19 AM   #37583
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In the Netherlands the de-facto urban speed limit is 30 km/h. Almost entire cities are a 'zone 30' except for major arterials which are usually 50 km/h (and sometimes 70 but that's not as common).

If you count urban street kilometrage, the vast majority is 30, though higher volume arterials are usually 50 km/h.

But there is also a gray area with streets being in a 30 zone but are wider, asphalted instead of bricks, carrying bus routes and traffic usually going around 40-45.

As a general rule;
* 30 km/h: cyclists on the road / street
* 50 km/h: cyclists on a separate lane or detached path
* 70 km/h: cyclists entirely detached (often no at-grade crossings either).
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 11:25 AM   #37584
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The European tour of Texas:

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Old December 2nd, 2017, 11:28 AM   #37585
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Now consider the size of Texas. That tour is 1700 km long!
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 12:27 PM   #37586
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The European tour of Texas:

"Rhome" is a bit of a stretch.
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 04:23 PM   #37587
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In the Netherlands the de-facto urban speed limit is 30 km/h. Almost entire cities are a 'zone 30' except for major arterials which are usually 50 km/h (and sometimes 70 but that's not as common).
But do those streets, with 30 km/h, or even 50 km/h, look so:



?

There is 50 km/h speed limit here. Nobody follows it, unless there is a police patrol controlling the speed. Sometimes people even exceed 100 km/h, I don't support that, but for me, 70 km/h is still a reasonable speed here.

Is increasing the allowed speed to 60 km/h at night a bad idea?
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 04:28 PM   #37588
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"Rhome" is a bit of a stretch.
Neat.

Though i like the relationship tour in at/de beter. :-)
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 06:50 PM   #37589
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Neat.

Though i like the relationship tour in at/de beter. :-)
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 07:37 PM   #37590
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Old December 2nd, 2017, 08:11 PM   #37591
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Meanwhile in Slovakia (sorry for the typo, but I am not the author)
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 08:33 AM   #37593
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But do those streets, with 30 km/h, or even 50 km/h, look so:

30:
https://www.google.nl/maps/@51.48308...8i6656!5m1!1e1
50:
https://www.google.nl/maps/@51.48743...8i6656!5m1!1e1
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 02:13 PM   #37594
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They seem to have narrower lanes. And are narrower in general.

Compare with: https://goo.gl/maps/nbjNMfeTHZy

Or, in the city: https://goo.gl/maps/6nSHKBsHx9H2 (speed increased to 60 km/h - which makes sense here)
Although now those broad lanes got narrowed, they painted bicycle lanes.
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 02:18 PM   #37595
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The lanes are standard Dutch width.

btw the last one I posted you get pushed by other drivers whilst doing 70km/h
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 02:57 PM   #37596
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btw the last one I posted you get pushed by other drivers whilst doing 70km/h
By the way... Bikes and mopeds are forbidden there. Bikes - I can understand it, but why mopeds?

I can't really see a reason why pedestrian would use it, so why is it only 50 km/h?
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Old December 3rd, 2017, 03:31 PM   #37597
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Mopeds are supposed to take the cyclepath along the Boulevard because within built-up area (city limits), in this case pedestrians are meant to use the same cyclepath.
I dunno why it's 50 either... And pretty much everyone except for learner drivers ignores the limit, except when police is around of course
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Old December 4th, 2017, 06:44 PM   #37598
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Small Yugoslav border town in the 1970's...wonder what it looked like to someone peering in from behind the so-called Iron Curtain?

Vrsac, today Serbia, just a few km from RO border....
What is this all about? ROmania's still poor even today...
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Old December 6th, 2017, 07:53 PM   #37599
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Interesting video - Traffic flow measured on 30 different 4-way junctions

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Old December 6th, 2017, 11:26 PM   #37600
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Rain all the way here in Bergen

It has been raining far above average here for more than 1 year. The final annual precipitation for 2017 is likely to be 3400mm
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