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Old December 26th, 2017, 10:51 PM   #37821
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I think about 5 million Muslims live in Germany today.
So these Muslims can move freely in other countries because they are Europeans by political and social rights. Then I don't understand why Hungary and Poland being in the union and got every rights for their own citizen, act that 'all Muslims' should suddenly stop coming to their lands. Is this deprivation of rights?
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Old December 26th, 2017, 10:58 PM   #37822
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I also don't understand many politicians. I was in Romania with a Muslim and he had no problem at all. It was during Ramadan and he even managed getting his breakfast at midnight...
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Old December 26th, 2017, 11:01 PM   #37823
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You guys do realise that I asked about Santa’s presents to stop this religious / eastern europe debate, right?
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Old December 26th, 2017, 11:22 PM   #37824
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Old December 26th, 2017, 11:42 PM   #37825
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Lets take this one: Why did you create an account in Skyscrapercity ? are you only using it for reading about road building and maintenance ? What else do you read about in this huge forum ??
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Old December 27th, 2017, 12:01 AM   #37826
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So these Muslims can move freely in other countries because they are Europeans by political and social rights. Then I don't understand why Hungary and Poland being in the union and got every rights for their own citizen, act that 'all Muslims' should suddenly stop coming to their lands. Is this deprivation of rights?
Thankfully, there are no laws allowing to ban Muslims. All this issue is about illegal immigrants that are mostly Muslims. Populist politicians often unify those two different issues, but it is not the same.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 01:15 AM   #37827
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Hungary, Poland and Slovakia obviously hate Muslims because of communist reasons
What does communism have to do with hating Muslims?

Communism was generally anti-religious.

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Because you are part of the civilized world I really can't understand why you don't agree with legal Muslim migration, since those have rights to settle to your country.
The question is, which part of this migration is actually legal.

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What has been built is already done and you think nothing will constantly change and mature. For example how would you explain the big percentages of atheism in the Netherlands?
But those atheists are still e.g. celebrating Christmas, aren't they?

And even if you get rid of the religious aspects of Christmas - you still follow some traditions, like even gift giving, or others, whatever Christmas traditions you have in your country, that have religious origin.

Maybe they will even be old pagan customs adapted later by the Christianity, but they exist.

And all the concern is actually not about the religion, but about the culture. You can rule out the religion, it will still be present. They say so, at least. I don't really see that.

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A cousin of mine is a teacher. She told me that it was not allowed this year to call her school's Christmas party "Christmas party" but it had to be called "year-end party"...
And this is the problem. It goes too far.

By the way, I also don't have any problems with Balkans.

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We shouldn't remove Christian symbols or halt public celebrations because someone who came from far away may be offended. If they want, they are free to show their own symbols or to make their own celebrations. We shoud allow other cultures and religions until the point that they don't conflict with our laws (for example, religion-motivated terrorism, family violence, child marriages, or female genital mutilations are serious crimes and must be punished as such).
Yes, this is exactly the thing we are pointing out.

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So these Muslims can move freely in other countries because they are Europeans by political and social rights. Then I don't understand why Hungary and Poland being in the union and got every rights for their own citizen, act that 'all Muslims' should suddenly stop coming to their lands. Is this deprivation of rights?
Who says so? Even though I don't support the current Polish government (the previous one neither), the only thing my government opposes is agreeing to admit groups of illegal immigrants of unknown origin, claiming to be refugees, but not being able to present any documents that could confirm that. It has absolutely nothing to do with native-European Muslims from the Balkans that have always lived there and are already a part of the European society.

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Lets take this one: Why did you create an account in Skyscrapercity ? are you only using it for reading about road building and maintenance ? What else do you read about in this huge forum ??
Not only roads This forum is theoretically about skyscrapers. In my city there are no skyscrapers - the tallest office building has 22 levels, the tallest residential one has 26 levels. Actually, the only thread in the SSC division of my city in which it is allowed to discuss about skyscrapers is the one whether we should have skyscrapers in the city at all. Because there are some good reasons why not to build them.

But, for example, a big part of the SSC apart from roads, is also the public transportation. And I like following the public transport threads even more than the ones about roads. Even though roads are important, and also used by the public transport, the public transport in a big city is just necessary.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 10:33 AM   #37828
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You guys do realise that I asked about Santa’s presents to stop this religious / eastern europe debate, right?
I have got two sweaters (o. k. one sweater and one pullover, to be correct ) and of course a few crazy socks (the ones I like most have the pattern of fried eggs ).

And we are toying with the idea of buying a roof box for our car, but due to a bad health condition of our dog we are not very likely to travel anywhere. So the "purchase project" is postponed for the time being. It was supposed to be a Christmas gift.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 11:31 AM   #37829
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Lets take this one: Why did you create an account in Skyscrapercity ? are you only using it for reading about road building and maintenance ? What else do you read about in this huge forum ??
I became a member in 2006 because of skyscraper project in my city and it was interesting to see supertall project updates from Dubai and other cities.

Around that time (2006), Skyscrapercity was one of the best websites to get project updates of any kind of construction project, anywhere in the world. Not only skyscrapers but also infrastructure. Back then, social media wasn't a thing yet.

Right now I largely focus on the Highways & Autobahns section and am a reader in many other subforums. Skyscrapercity is still a great place to get project updates from faraway countries I will likely never visit.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 12:16 PM   #37830
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It is strange to visit a place where you used to live as a visitor. People at hotel or other places see my foregin bank cards and/or ID and never guess I speak Dutch lol. Nevertheless I am shopping quite a bit here in Amsterdam, prices for things like apparel are 40% cheaper than in Norway and I qualify to buy with VAT refund because I now live outside the EU. I also bought some 80kg of specialized superfoods and nutrition supplements and sent them by post, it is quite a niche thijng that costs 400% more in Norway. So even paying import fees and packaging costs it is still 2000 Euro savings. I
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Old December 27th, 2017, 12:26 PM   #37831
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Lets take this one: Why did you create an account in Skyscrapercity ? are you only using it for reading about road building and maintenance ? What else do you read about in this huge forum ??
I have interest in any kind of traffic/transport (in my language it's the same word). For me traffic is a giant, very complex system, where all participants, cars, trains, buses, trucks, airplanes, etc. are not enemies but every one has its role. I follow a lot of public transport threads as well.
I have never visited any thread outside the "Infrastructure and mobility" section.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 12:55 PM   #37832
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Lets take this one: Why did you create an account in Skyscrapercity ? are you only using it for reading about road building and maintenance ? What else do you read about in this huge forum ??
To begin with architecture and construction are not my hobby. So I avoided this page as much as possible. But in 2013 we were about to sell our apartment and move elsewhere. As I was browsing and looking for some projects I bumped into a Slovak topic related to buying an apartment - what to care about, what to watch out for, etc. So I gave it a shot and became familiar with this single topic. One day I was bored to hell, checked the topic tree and found this mobility subforum.

It is a perfect source of information I am able to utilize even in my work. Furthermore this forum is quite a good way to practice written English on almost everyday base.
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Old December 27th, 2017, 03:10 PM   #37833
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There is a lot to answer to you about the previous discussion but I will skip it.
Just to note that my ancestry from both sides is Christian all of my grand grand parents were Orthodox. I really respect their desire and will that they struggled to save their tradition and religion. This was underlined in the previous discussion and I agree with you all
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Old December 28th, 2017, 12:16 AM   #37834
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For Christmas I got winter socks and jumpers. I love this time of year, mostly because I love wearing winter clothing, especially jumpers and scarves.

As for why I became a member of SSC, I suppose it was because it was the only place I could talk about nerdy things (though I beg you not to look back at my posts from a decade ago...) like road signs and railway extensions. It also gave me an opportunity to write in English as I didn't really have any other reason to do so at the time, as I had left the UK when I was 8 my written English was far from perfect.
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Old December 28th, 2017, 01:26 AM   #37835
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Scarves are useless where I live now. Never touched mine.
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Old December 28th, 2017, 08:08 AM   #37836
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Scarves are useless where I live now. Never touched mine.
You live on the Equator?
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Old December 28th, 2017, 10:22 AM   #37837
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No. But it rains so much in Bergen that scarves are just sponges for cold water .
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Old December 28th, 2017, 07:18 PM   #37838
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Have you tried using the scarf under your jacket?
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Old December 28th, 2017, 09:01 PM   #37839
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Carry an umbrella, they are lovely too.
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Old December 28th, 2017, 11:23 PM   #37840
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Guys rain in Bergen is not the kind of rain you offset with umbrellas. It often comes accompanied by wind and it is also often pouring dense rain. I am adapting to lightweight waterproof jackets with GoreTex.
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