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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:25 AM   #5101
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I use only paper maps and my eyes. They are enough.
well, a horse drawn vehicle is enough too, but it is not that fast and cosy as a car...

a GPS is an extremely great help, but it cant correct your typing error of course...
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Old July 29th, 2009, 08:28 AM   #5102
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I got everywhere until now without GPS. It is a great help, that's for sure, but now people don't look out of the car window anymore, just into 8 inch monitor. And if the road which should go right ahead closed for whatever reason, some people don't know anymore what to do.

And 5 years ago? How did people travel without those fancy things?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:15 AM   #5103
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Do you guys visit your country's touristic sites often? I don't

I have been to Amsterdam for touristic purposes only two times... I don't find Amsterdam that special. I have never even been to Kinderdijk. I've driven across Schokland once... It's just a 3 meter "hill" in the plains with an old village on it.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:20 AM   #5104
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I've never been to Kinderdijk as well. I go to Amsterdam quite often, but that's not much of a surprise since it's very close by. I've visited Schokland once. In the Limburg province I've visited numerous tourist attractions, but I once went on holiday there, some time ago.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:28 AM   #5105
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Do you guys visit your country's touristic sites often? I don't
I usually try to check them when I'm in a city new to me. And sometimes I go on minor vacations to such sites.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #5106
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just into 8 inch monitor.
Wow, that's a huge gadget you got... Mine's only 4.3"
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #5107
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In my opinion, the Netherlands is one of the most boring countries in Europe to visit. Historical city centers are nice... for like a few hours to maybe one day. Touring the canals of Amsterdam is nice, but not THAT special, old Dutch architecture is not really spectacular, like you would find in cities like Paris, Barcelona, Vienna or Budapest.

Naturally, the Netherlands also doesn't have much unique to offer. Many people find southern Limburg stunning, but it's basically the same as half of Belgium and much of Germany. The Veluwe wooded area is also loved by many, but that's just because we don't have much large wooded areas. Furthermore, most of the country is very flat... no views, mostly cows and agriculture. The coast is nice, but not more spectacular than like Denmark or France. Besides that, the country is crowded, you gotta like that.

Me, I like Germany, Sweden, France or Switzerland much better, especially outside the main tourist areas. Nothing kills a vacation than to hear Dutch all the time in France or Spain. That's not why I leave the Netherlands.

This is what I like, not those crowded coastal areas of the Netherlands with traffic jams all the time, and crowded beaches.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 12:13 PM   #5108
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And 5 years ago? How did people travel without those fancy things?
are you an amish?

technical advance is nice, but has its disadvantage...
so you have to use it wise...
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For Verso: I've posted a new series of pictures - Trieste.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 12:48 PM   #5110
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Wow, that's a huge gadget you got... Mine's only 4.3"
I don't own any of these devices and frankly I did make only a guess. But yes, some cars offer even 8" monitors.

About technical advancement: spending few 100 € for a device which comes really useful only for about 0.1% of drivers (probably overestimation) is a nonsense to me. Most drivers (as I see) use GPS for driving from home to work. Fancy feature but totaly useless. For a standard vacation it is an overkill.

I said I'll buy one when they'll come inside washing powder box.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 01:40 PM   #5111
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This is what I like, not those crowded coastal areas of the Netherlands with traffic jams all the time, and crowded beaches.
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What's so special about this pic? It's as flat as the Netherlands.

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So? Joke, I like to check out Trieste actually.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 02:29 PM   #5112
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My newest road atlas

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Old July 29th, 2009, 02:57 PM   #5113
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In Poland, not much, only with school trips, I went once to Warsaw in 1998 it was cool comparing to were I lived
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a few variations on standard interchanges


(http://xkcd.com/253/)
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Old July 29th, 2009, 06:38 PM   #5115
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Do you guys visit your country's touristic sites often?
Yeah, I do that every now and then, but that doesn't mean I walk around towns sightseeing, but I go to nature, like Alps. I like driving over mountain passes.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 06:40 PM   #5116
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Have you ever visited the Postojna caves, Verso? We were told that it was a complete tourist rip-off, so we decided to go to Škocjanske jame instead, and this turned out to be a good choice. Later that day some people we met told us that they had to wait two hours
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Old July 29th, 2009, 07:41 PM   #5117
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Of course I've been to the Postojna Cave. I'm thinking of going there again. Whoever told you it was a rip-off, was definitely wrong. It might not be the cheapest ticket out there (€16 students, €20 adults), but you won't bankrupt for going there once. It's one of the most beautiful caves in the world, and I think third longest. Train adds to the feeling. But Škocjanske jame are beautiful too.
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #5118
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even i shall say that it definitely worths to visit Postojnska cave so it really must me something special! i haven't been there for a long time, i could visit it again
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I have been to the Attendorn caves in Germany. I think if you've seen one, you've seen them all..
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Old July 29th, 2009, 09:17 PM   #5120
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Not really. There is e.g. an underground river in the Skocjanske cave, while other caves are more known for the stalactite. In Slovakia I've been to an ice-cave (Demanova l'adova jaskina or sth)
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