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Old September 26th, 2009, 07:00 PM   #5781
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Old September 27th, 2009, 12:46 AM   #5782
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Do you guys have the problem of drivers who haven't left the intersection making left turns seconds after the light turns red on their side and you have green light?

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Old September 27th, 2009, 12:49 AM   #5783
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Not in the Netherlands, clearance times of traffic signal phases are usually like 2 seconds after the light turns red, plus, our traffic lights are placed before the intersection, so traffic has to stop well before the actual intersection, giving additional time before traffic has accelerated onto the intersection.

Example: N337 IJsselallee, Zwolle, Netherlands
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Old September 27th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #5784
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It happens here a lot unfortunately.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:21 AM   #5785
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IJsselallee
Do you guys have to write it like that, or you can also write Ijsselallee? I know 'IJ' is one letter, but it looks so odd to me. 'LJ' is also one letter in Serbo-Croatian, but luckily they write Ljubljana, not LJubljana.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:26 AM   #5786
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As far as I know, the Flemish write Ij, but we (Dutch) write IJ because it's a diphthong. However, words starting wit "Oe" are not both capital letters, the IJ is the only exception.

IJ is probably most like the English word "eye". Eye-sel-allee.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #5787
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^ I thought it was pronounced [ij-sel-allee] (well, as it's written).
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Old September 27th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #5788
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Do you guys have to write it like that, or you can also write Ijsselallee? I know 'IJ' is one letter, but it looks so odd to me. 'LJ' is also one letter in Serbo-Croatian, but luckily they write Ljubljana, not LJubljana.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:01 PM   #5789
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Gay is okay. If it's valid in both, Serbian and Croatian, I just say Serbo-Croatian. You can say Serbo-Slovenian, if sth is valid in both languages. Don't forget that Serbian and Croatian belong to the Serbo-Croatian group of languages.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 01:25 PM   #5790
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2) First posts need to contain a network map, links to significant photo series and construction plans.
In the case of photo series with more than one post, one could link to a page of the thread instead of individual posts (of course only if the posts are on the same page).

Another problem with lots of pictures are page turns. With lots of pictures a lower page turn would be good, while threads with mostly discussions can have more posts per page to help people follow the conversations. But I think there's little we can do about that, is there?
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Old September 27th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #5791
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AFAIK there have been discussions on the Dutch Wegenforum wheter you should write "IJ" or "Ij"
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Old September 27th, 2009, 06:50 PM   #5792
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Serbs and Croats (Serbo-Croats ) go in other extreme; f.e. they write their alphabet in all caps, but instead of also writing DŽ, LJ, NJ (all caps), they write Dž, Lj, Nj.
A B C Č Ć D Dž Đ E F G H I J K L Lj M N Nj O P R S Š T U V Z Ž (the Croatian order, Serbian is different)
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Old September 27th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #5793
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A Ą B C Ć D E Ę F G H I J K L Ł M N Ń O P R S Ś T U W Y Z Ż Ź

Polish alphabet, I hope it is right ;D
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Ą would better fit behind O, and Ł would be better by W.
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Old September 27th, 2009, 06:59 PM   #5795
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If you don't want to strectch your tongue too much, most of people say 'en' instead of ę or 'on' instead of ą
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Old September 27th, 2009, 07:21 PM   #5796
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Serbs and Croats (Serbo-Croats ) go in other extreme; f.e. they write their alphabet in all caps, but instead of also writing D, LJ, NJ (all caps), they write D, Lj, Nj.
A B C Č Ć D D Đ E F G H I J K L Lj M N Nj O P R S T U V Z (the Croatian order, Serbian is different)
Hungarians do it too it is not SZeged, but Szeged
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Old September 27th, 2009, 07:23 PM   #5797
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Ż Ź
what is the difference between these?
and you really don't have any words with V?
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Old September 27th, 2009, 07:28 PM   #5798
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'W' serves for that purpose. No we don't have such words
ż = zhet
ź = ziet
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so ż is harder than ź? like our č and ć
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Old September 27th, 2009, 07:36 PM   #5800
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Yes, I guess it's same kind of pattern
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