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Old November 29th, 2009, 09:47 PM   #6341
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Old November 29th, 2009, 10:01 PM   #6342
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LOL. As I said, I was perfectly aware that I have priority over someone, if I have green and (s)he red. But we both have green in this case, so I wasn't sure. Anyway, everyone drives in that Ljubljana intersection as you suggested. But you have to admit it's stupid: when traffic lights aren't working, the transit route has priority, while when they are working, that unimportant residential street has priority.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 10:08 PM   #6343
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Well, in case of huge difference of traffic the lights should be constructed differently. Transit route should have its own protected green phase followed by short green for residential street.

Changing the worldwide traffic code for the sake of one crossing in Ljubljana wouldn't be as convenient
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Old November 29th, 2009, 10:12 PM   #6344
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Well, in case of huge difference of traffic the lights should be constructed differently. Transit route should have its own protected green phase followed by short green for residential street.
I agree. But then again, I think that's how it's actually arranged. I'm not sure, I'll have to check it out again. However, it still wouldn't be 100% proof for how to drive, only traffic rules can prove who's right.

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Changing the worldwide traffic code for the sake of one crossing in Ljubljana wouldn't be as convenient
As well as in Zagreb!
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Old November 29th, 2009, 10:21 PM   #6345
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As well as in Zagreb!
those crossroads in exams are opften photoshoped, especially those with traffic lights and signs
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Old November 29th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #6346
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those crossroads in exams are opften photoshoped, especially those with traffic lights and signs
Yeah, that narrow priority road on the left doesn't look important indeed.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #6347
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However, it still wouldn't be 100% proof for how to drive
Of course it would.

Consider that masterpiece of paint work:

You are driving your cool car through the very centre of Ljubljana and you approach such situation:

You see that the vehicle in front is going straight, so you yield.


Now consider this situatuion:

You see that you have a protected signal, so you have priority - don't look at the looser incoming from north, drive proudly.

Simple
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:21 PM   #6348
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Verso, I'm wondering how did you pass driving exam if you don't know such basic traffic rules. Ordinary signs about priority are not valid when traffic lights are working.

Oh, others told you already.

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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #6349
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Now consider this situatuion:

You see that you have a protected signal, so you have priority - don't look at the looser incoming from north, drive proudly.
Something is not right here ... What traffic light then has the other driver?
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:26 PM   #6350
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is that Qtya in Passat?
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:32 PM   #6351
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Something is not right here ... What traffic light then has the other driver?
Red of course. Since you have protected green there is no other traffic which could in any way interact with you. That's the main idea of protected turns

And of course that something is not right here. I forgot to draw a Slovenian vignette on the windshield.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:40 PM   #6352
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is that Qtya in Passat?
I just thought the same

Just he should draw Prius at other side
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:41 PM   #6353
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i think that protected green in SLO is signed with additional green left arrow at the opposite side of road (at the same porter as traffic light for opposite direction, but at the other side)
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:42 PM   #6354
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Verso, I'm wondering how did you pass driving exam if you don't know such basic traffic rules. Ordinary signs about priority are not valid when traffic lights are working.
Do you always have to be so cocky, Mr. Know-It-All? Judging your comments about driving in the Slovenian forum, I probably drive better than you. You're generalizing my entire driving on one unique situation. How many such intersections do you know? My reasoning about "traffic lights have priority over signs" is that in 99.99% I have green and others red light, while here we both have green, so I wasn't 100% sure, but obviously I mustn't even ask. Do you understand now?


That's some masterpiece, Fuzzy!
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:44 PM   #6355
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Something is not right here ... What traffic light then has the other driver?
Red, of course. I wonder how you passed driving exam.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:49 PM   #6356
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i think that protected green in SLO is signed with additional green left arrow at the opposite side of road (at the same porter as traffic light for opposite direction, but at the other side)
Okay, I didn't know that. In Poland we use the scheme at the picture (full light = normal, arrow outlines = protected) and when I drove abroad I didn't notice country which followed different scheme, so I assumed that it's the same in whole Europe...
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:54 PM   #6357
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Of course it would.
Sorry, I thought you meant yellow (orange) arrow on the other side of the road.

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i think that protected green in SLO is signed with additional green left arrow at the opposite side of road (at the same porter as traffic light for opposite direction, but at the other side)
No, it's as Fuzzy drew it, but I haven't seen three arrows here yet (I think I've seen it somewhere in Switzerland, but I'm not sure). We only have one arrow. On the other side of the road is a yellow/orange arrow.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 11:57 PM   #6358
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i think that protected green in SLO is signed with additional green left arrow at the opposite side of road (at the same porter as traffic light for opposite direction, but at the other side)
This is also in Slovakia and probably many other countries. If there isn't such signal you may enter the crossing, but you must yield traffic from the opposite direction which is driving straight or turning right .

I wonder how would Verso solve this:
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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:01 AM   #6359
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I wonder how would Verso solve this:
What's the question?

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Old November 30th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #6360
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What's the question?

Which vehicle(s) will be the first to drive through the crossing?
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