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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #7701
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Anyone knows what my chances are of making it to Europe in the beginning of May? I am worried...
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Old April 21st, 2010, 02:27 AM   #7702
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Old April 21st, 2010, 06:19 AM   #7703
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Old April 21st, 2010, 09:02 AM   #7704
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Anyone knows what my chances are of making it to Europe in the beginning of May? I am worried...
Air traffic is starting up again, so it should be fine within two weeks
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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:36 AM   #7705
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Air traffic is starting up again, so it should be fine within two weeks
Who knows when does it will be OK?

In fact, It doesn`t matter for you. South of Europe might be open also during a big eruption.

for me it matters because UK is just under the Iceland and I realy don`t want to use a bus to travel there.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 05:00 PM   #7706
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Ya I just read that it's just a matter of time when the vulcano next to this one is going to erupt. My parents are coming over next week and it would suck if they couldn't.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 05:23 PM   #7707
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Yeah, for Europeans it is not so terrible. We can use our cars, trains and buses. But for Americans that`s pretty bad.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 06:05 PM   #7708
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The problem is, nobody learns from this thing.

As soon as the ash cloud disentegrates, people are gonna fly just as much as they did before
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Who knows when does it will be OK?

In fact, It doesn`t matter for you. South of Europe might be open also during a big eruption.

for me it matters because UK is just under the Iceland and I realy don`t want to use a bus to travel there.
It matters to me because I have a ticket booked to Paris, and then a bunch of non-refundable train reservations in NL and Germany. But right now it looks good, seems everything is mostly back to normal. I hope no major eruption occurs again.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 11:02 PM   #7710
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It matters to me because I have a ticket booked to Paris, and then a bunch of non-refundable train reservations in NL and Germany. But right now it looks good, seems everything is mostly back to normal. I hope no major eruption occurs again.
I also hope there won`t be eruptions. It will be so hard for me.

but if there still will be some eruptions you can change your flight to one of these cities on the south coast and than travel by bus, train to France/ Germany. It might be difficult and more expensive.

This vulcanoe haven`t erupt for 200 years, so it`s pretty hard to say how long will eruptions takes.

PS: One guy from Slovak forum had to traveled by train from London to Vienna. It takes 20 hours. Usually it takes "just" 12 hours.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 03:09 AM   #7711
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I have a question - is there passport control when traveling by train inside the Schengen zone?
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 07:11 AM   #7712
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I don't know what the 'Shengen' zone is but if it's in Europe, probably not. Unless you are going to a country that is not a member of the European Union.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 07:44 AM   #7713
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No, there is not passport control inside the Schengen zone. There are no just states of EU, but also other states. By the way, UK and Ireland are in EU, but not in Schengen.

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The Amsterdam Treaty of 1997 incorporated the Schengen Agreements into the mainstream of European Union law. The borderless zone created by the Schengen Agreements, the Schengen Area, currently consists of 25 European countries, covering a population of over 400 million people and an area of 4,312,099 square kilometres (1,664,911 sq mi).[2]. Ireland and the United Kingdom opted out of Schengen's border control arrangements, while participating in certain provisions relating to judicial and police cooperation.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 08:15 AM   #7714
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 09:48 AM   #7715
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No, there is not passport control inside the Schengen zone. There are no just states of EU, but also other states. By the way, UK and Ireland are in EU, but not in Schengen. ...
Thanks! Yeah, I'm familiar with all the details of Schengen (though I guess your response was mostly directed to Ni3lS).

I just wanted to make sure regarding the train, because I know how it applies to road traffic. I know about the UK too, I already got special declaration cards to fill out, and will have my passport ready.
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 10:59 AM   #7716
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The problem is, nobody learns from this thing.
As soon as the ash cloud disentegrates, people are gonna fly just as much as they did before

yeah!

everybody should stay on his/her ass!

or at least pay 100% tax on airtravel...
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I have a question - is there passport control when traveling by train inside the Schengen zone?
There are no more checkpoints at borders, but you can get checked by police or customs anywhere within the Schengen area. Random checks on international trains are quite frequent. (Even more frequent if the train originated in the NL - I'll leave it to you to figure out why.)

Only recently, I had to show my passport to two police officers on a train from Vienna to Munich. They had a laptop and checked everyone on that train for outstanding warrents or their immigration status. Oh, and that took place between Vienna and Linz, so even passengers who had no intention of crossing any borders were also checked.

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Old April 22nd, 2010, 06:18 PM   #7718
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Thanks! Yeah, I'm familiar with all the details of Schengen (though I guess your response was mostly directed to Ni3lS).

I just wanted to make sure regarding the train, because I know how it applies to road traffic. I know about the UK too, I already got special declaration cards to fill out, and will have my passport ready.
You are welcome..

It doesn`t matter how are you traveling. Just pass the border and don`t mind.

PS: I have to get a new passport. If I`ll be in another state so long it might be useful to have passport, not just ID. So thank you to remind me that because in summer there are always long queues. I have to do it now.

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Old April 22nd, 2010, 09:24 PM   #7719
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I just wanted to make sure regarding the train, because I know how it applies to road traffic. I know about the UK too, I already got special declaration cards to fill out, and will have my passport ready.
Although Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are not in Schengen, there is no passport control between them and Schengen countries. For an ordinary traveller, they are in Schengen too. So the correct map of Schengen Area is:
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Old April 22nd, 2010, 09:35 PM   #7720
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