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Old May 8th, 2010, 11:23 AM   #7781
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Old May 9th, 2010, 01:47 AM   #7782
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Amsterdam But I am leaving in a few hours to Germany.
Really beautiful city, I liked it a lot. We also visited Rotterdam and The Hague.
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Old May 9th, 2010, 10:38 AM   #7783
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Old May 10th, 2010, 04:28 PM   #7784
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The radar got me at 109 km/h. They subtract a 3% margin at speeds over 100 km/h. and 3km/h at speeds below 100 km/h.

There is only one place they are able to set up a speed camera team on that stretch of motorway, and that's in the last few 100 m of the 100 km/h zone. But that's the Dutch police, they want easy money.
That sounds exactly like the Estonian police.

An example: The police were measuring speed on Tallinn-Narva 4-lane highway 2 days before the speed limit was raised from 90km/h to 110km/h. How the f**k does that increase traffic safety?
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Old May 10th, 2010, 10:32 PM   #7785
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it does not. Speed checks aren't about anyone's safety. It's about easy money. Every time you screw up the police get rich.

A little like the people who writes tickets to illegally parked cars. In Denmark, these guys can get 80€ for an illegal parking.
(For some reason they are exceptionally good at randomly giving fines and not documenting location and time of the parking later)
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Old May 10th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #7786
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Speed checks aren't always for the easy money. Estonia has only 16 automatic speed cameras at the moment but all of them are situated in places where a large number of accidents have occured during the years. That is tight corners and steeper slopes with decreased visibility, villages where pedestrians and cyclists share the road with cars etc. That's where speed checks should be....

It doesn't really bother me if people drive over the speed limit(to some extent, of course) when the conditons are good. What does annoy me, though, is when people don't slow down when it's actually necessary to go slower.
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Old May 10th, 2010, 11:50 PM   #7787
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Do you have automatic speed cameras oo the motorways?
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Old May 11th, 2010, 06:21 AM   #7788
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Yea in Holland we do.

Sometimes the police uses laserguns/detection or for example a parked car on the side of the highway. Those are just temporarily though.
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Apart from the section controls, fixed speed cameras on Dutch motorways are pretty rare. They mostly enforce the limits with mobile teams.
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I really liked the way the police was giving out parking tickets in Amsterdam The policeman was just checking the license plates of vehicles with a wireless terminal, which in my understanding communicates with the parking meter. That's very efficient In Toronto we have to display printed parking permits on the windshield.
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Old May 11th, 2010, 02:12 PM   #7791
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How much do you have them?
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Old May 11th, 2010, 03:09 PM   #7792
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How much do you have them?
A2 between Maarssen and Breukelen (temporarily out of service) 120 km/h
A4 between Hoofddorp and Nieuw Vennep 120 km/h
A10 between Nieuwe Meer and Coentunnel (both directions) 80 km/h
A12 local lanes, between Oudenrijn and Lunetten (both directions) 80 km/h
A12 express lanes, between Lunetten and De Meern (both directions) 100 km/h
A12 between De Meern and Woerden 120 km/h
A12 between Prins Clausplein and Den Haag (both directions) 80 km/h
A12 between Kleinpolderplein and Rotterdam Airport (both directions) 80 km/h
A20 between Kleinpolderplein and Terbregseplein (both directions) 80 km/h
N256 Zeeland Bridge(both directions) 80 km/h
N62 Westerschelde Tunnel (both directions) 100 km/h
N381 between Wijnjewoude and Donkerbroek (both directions) 80 km/h
N919 near Veenhuizen
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Old May 11th, 2010, 04:19 PM   #7793
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I really liked the way the police was giving out parking tickets in Amsterdam The policeman was just checking the license plates of vehicles with a wireless terminal, which in my understanding communicates with the parking meter. That's very efficient In Toronto we have to display printed parking permits on the windshield.
In Tallinn we use SMS parking, at least the majority(90%) of people uses it. The system has been in use since 2000. You first have to contact your mobile phone operator to activate the service. And then you just send an SMS with the number on your car's license plate and the name of the zone you're parking in. The parking bill will be added to your phone bill.

The authorities can check your "ticket" with small wireless terminals that have internet connection.

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Old May 12th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #7794
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I really liked the way the police was giving out parking tickets in Amsterdam The policeman was just checking the license plates of vehicles with a wireless terminal, which in my understanding communicates with the parking meter. That's very efficient In Toronto we have to display printed parking permits on the windshield.
I was wondering how they checked that because I couldn't see any tickets in the car windscreens. We parked on the Zienseniskade for two hours without paying, didn't see a single traffic warden the whole time.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 11:34 AM   #7795
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Maybe they paid their parking tickets with SMS payment, like they have in Estonia (per Rebasepoiss)

Central Amsterdam parking is € 5 per hour ($ 6.50), although I believe there are a few garages which are more expensive. The hourly parking rates taper off once you'll get further outside the city center. Almost all inside the A10 Ring Road, and south of the IJ river has parking fees. Even the new residential development of IJburg has a € 2,40 per hour parking rate.

You can park mostly for free just across the IJ river, you only have to cross the river. Another option is to use a P+R, you can park 24 hours for € 6 and have a free transit pass towards downtown.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 12:36 PM   #7796
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In Tallinn we use SMS parking, at least the majority(90%) of people uses it. The system has been in use since 2000. You first have to contact your mobile phone operator to activate the service. And then you just send an SMS with the number on your car's license plate and the name of the zone you're parking in. The parking bill will be added to your phone bill.

The authorities can check your "ticket" with small wireless terminals that have internet connection.
Exactly the same system in Zagreb, since 2001. Perhaps it was Tallinn we stole the idea from.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #7797
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I think it was since 1999 in Vilnius.
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Old May 12th, 2010, 05:08 PM   #7798
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Who cares who invented it? It's brilliant!
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Maybe they paid their parking tickets with SMS payment, like they have in Estonia (per Rebasepoiss)

Central Amsterdam parking is € 5 per hour ($ 6.50), although I believe there are a few garages which are more expensive. The hourly parking rates taper off once you'll get further outside the city center. Almost all inside the A10 Ring Road, and south of the IJ river has parking fees. Even the new residential development of IJburg has a € 2,40 per hour parking rate.

You can park mostly for free just across the IJ river, you only have to cross the river. Another option is to use a P+R, you can park 24 hours for € 6 and have a free transit pass towards downtown.
We stayed at Camping Zeeburg, so we can park there and take the tram in. It was just on our final day we had to drop a friend at Amstel station and then we had some time to kill before heading back to Calais. It surprised me that you have to pay to park in all of the suburbs too, like in Zeeburg by the shops. We didn't pay though. Are parking tickets even enforceable against foreign cars?
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Old May 12th, 2010, 09:40 PM   #7800
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You have to pay to park on the High Streets of alot of suburban areas of London too.
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