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Old June 1st, 2010, 05:28 PM   #7881
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I had the driving exam in the exact same vehicle as I learned driving in. It's better for people to use the same car they're used to, but on the other hand, it's important to know how to drive in different cars.

The first time I drove in a gasoline-powered car it looked like I was driving a car for the first time. I had driving lessons in a diesel-powered all the time, and gasoline is quite different with the clutch and all if you're not used to it.
Same here, I learned and did my test in a diesel Mégane, but my first car was a petrol Suzuki and I used to over-rev all the time. I still drive a petrol car (I now have a Tigra) and sometimes drive a diesel Freelander in work and always have to adjust have much throttle I use when I change cars. It is better to do your test in the car you learned in and that is standard practice here in the UK. And I passed first time!
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Old June 1st, 2010, 08:27 PM   #7882
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i learned driving (and had exam) in brand new VW Golf IV
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Old June 1st, 2010, 08:30 PM   #7883
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What's up with these kiddy-sized learning cars? I had a 307 SW, a full-size station wagon.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 08:43 PM   #7884
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Money, money, money, money.
Polish driving schools' owners would go and kill anyone who'd decide that examination centres will use Avensises instead of Yarises. Centres may buy the cars at very low prices, but schools are forced to buy cars on normal market. And a school which use different cars than a local examination centre has little chances of surviving.

And, of course, there's a well established tradition of using small cars in driving schools. Remember that up to mid-90ties most exams were performed on these fellas:
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Old June 1st, 2010, 08:51 PM   #7885
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What's up with these kiddy-sized learning cars? I had a 307 SW, a full-size station wagon.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...7_SW_front.jpg
Many driving schools have Daewoo Matiz for practice in Romania:



I think that this tiny car is for laydies only



But you can also find this:


...or this:
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Old June 1st, 2010, 08:55 PM   #7886
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I learned and passed my exam with this BMW 118:
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Old June 1st, 2010, 09:47 PM   #7887
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And, of course, there's a well established tradition of using small cars in driving schools. Remember that up to mid-90ties most exams were performed on these fellas:
Poľský Fiat.

That`s how we usually call this car in Slovakia. Polish Fiat.

it`s nice but not more than this new one

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Old June 1st, 2010, 10:50 PM   #7888
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Seems that I'm really old here.

In 1996 I passed driving exam (and all previous learning hours) with Renault 19:
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Old June 1st, 2010, 11:18 PM   #7889
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^ Lucky you . As far I can remember I passed my exam 10 years ago on an old Dacia looking like this one:



And no power steering involved.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 10:09 AM   #7890
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I had the driving exam in the exact same vehicle as I learned driving in. It's better for people to use the same car they're used to, but on the other hand, it's important to know how to drive in different cars.
It used to be like that in Estonia too but since bribing was a big problem, they wanted to introduce cameras on the exam so special exam-vehicles where leased.
I personally learned to drive in a diesel-powered Opel Omega Caravan . It was quite a difference going from that to a Corolla with a rather small petrol engine.

I see that a lot of countries use very small learning cars. In Estonia it varies a lot. Practically everything from the size of a Toyota Yaris to a Toyota Avensis can be seen.

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Old June 2nd, 2010, 10:38 AM   #7891
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I was driving Renault Clio in driving school. I passed my driving exam in 2002., 3 months before I turned 18. It was the longest 3 months in my life. Ofcourse, I made my licence on my 18th birthday.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 11:21 AM   #7892
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Seems that I'm really old here.

In 1996 I passed driving exam (and all previous learning hours) with Renault 19:

That's the first car I drove after I received my driving license (I learned on Peugeot 206). I have really good memories of it. My driving was waaay better than on the training and exams, more relaxed and the trip was really nice in that Renault 19 (which was green as on the pic )
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 05:57 PM   #7893
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My car had maintenance. I wasn't sure the timing belt was replaced before I bought the car (at 130.000 km), but I raised questions when I couldn't figure it out, nor could Renault Netherlands.

The timing belt is a vital section of an engine, it controls the valves, so I'm told. They usually have to be replaced every 100.000 - 120.000 kilometers. My car now has 170.000 kms on it and I just found out it was the first time the timing belt was replaced. Phew, if it snaps, your engine is totaled (so is your car usually (economically)). So it was replaced about 50.000 kilometers overdue. (2,5 years worth of driving).

Anyhow, I also did a regular 20.000 km service check, totaling € 650. Not too shabby, the Renault dealer was gonna charge me over € 1000...
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650?! i make general repair on my Punto with that money!
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 06:13 PM   #7895
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And my father tought that 600 RON for a 20.000 km service check for a 1.5 dCi Renault Clio was too much...

1 € = 4,2 RON
600 RON = 143 €
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 06:19 PM   #7896
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You should not forget they charge like € 50 per working hour in the Netherlands. The timing belt itself is not very expensive, but it takes like 5 - 6 hours to replace it (varies by vehicle). They also replaced the water pump (that is a very common thing to replace together with the timing belt).

edit: The € 650 figure includes both the timing belt and service check.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 07:00 PM   #7897
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toyota rav4 (2007) - service check after 80000km = 350EUR in slovakia (and it's expensive)
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 07:47 PM   #7898
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I passed my test about...hmmm, a hundred years ago. Anyway, I was very lucky having an opportunity to learn driving with this beautiful rocket:
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After some time I decided to buy my own lorry so had to learn driving bigger stuff. A driving school chosen by me had this on its stock:
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It was very nice old machine with no power steering- my muscles got twice as much bigger and harder after driving that. It had unsynchronized manual transmission -changing gears required double declutching. Had no servo neither seat absorbers. Actually nothing worked properly in it, so I really had good fun using that "lorrrry".

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Old June 2nd, 2010, 08:10 PM   #7899
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You should not forget they charge like € 50 per working hour in the Netherlands. The timing belt itself is not very expensive, but it takes like 5 - 6 hours to replace it (varies by vehicle). They also replaced the water pump (that is a very common thing to replace together with the timing belt).

edit: The € 650 figure includes both the timing belt and service check.
In Romania they charge about 50-60 RON per working hour. I have to mention that for the price I said earlier I had a full service check and recplacement of oil, oil filter, air filter etc. (what you usually change at 20.000 check).

piotr71: how many (hundreds of) years ago did you pass your driving test?
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@ Bogdymol: Actually a bit less than hundred Cars 1990, trucks 1993.
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