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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:02 AM   #7981
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I still have quite a lot of old West European currencies (mainly German Marks, Pfenigs and French Francs, centimes). But coins, not banknotes. Is there anything I can do with that? I mean is it possible to change those pre-Euro currencies into Euro in banks or in post offices in Germany or France?
You can only exchange them at the individual country's national banks and they also accept coins. Ordinary banks or post offices don't exchange them anymore.

As far as collecting them, I think it'll be a very long time before they're worth anything.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 10:21 AM   #7982
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For collectors they are not worth anything, except if they're some special and very rare series (highly unlikely). Collectors collect new (I mean, they look as directly from the bank), carefully packed and unused coins and bills.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 11:27 AM   #7983
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The Dutch, French and Belgian national banks do not accept coins anymore, only banknotes.
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Old June 20th, 2010, 01:57 PM   #7984
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The Dutch, French and Belgian national banks do not accept coins anymore, only banknotes.
Oh, you're right. Germany and Austria still exchange coins, though.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:12 AM   #7985
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I guys, I have a question for you.
I'm planning a small trip to go for a visit of some friends living in Copenhagen.

We are thinking to do the whole trip by car...that's why I'd like to ask you some tips to study the most interesting tour.

I'm leaving from Pavia (Italy) and I have the Swiss Vignette, so I prefer to pass through Switzerland (and I guess that nightmarish Gotthard tunnel, which pisses me of everytime I pass it ).

What do you suggest? I'm hoping for a good trade-off between a nice trip, but not that long, since my real objective is to go to Copenhagen and not to do a real roadtrip. :p

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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:28 AM   #7986
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You can also use the San Bernardino Tunnel, Swiss A13 and then the corridor through Austria near Bregenz to Germany (Korridorvignette: € 2). Then follow A7 all the way to Denmark. I don't think you can drive it in one day though. This route saves you 40 kilometers as opposed to the Gotthard Tunnel, Basel and Frankfurt. Plus you'll avoid the roadworks on A5 south of Karlsruhe.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:00 PM   #7987
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I have no problem about doing a stop for a night.
If I find something to visit on the road.

Maybe Hamburg, if it doesn't get me too far away the road!
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:02 PM   #7988
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I think this itinerary provided by ViaMichelin is quite fine, isn't it? http://www.viamichelin.it/web/Itiner...routeConso=4.2

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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:11 PM   #7989
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Do you want to use the ferry or the bridges? Both are about equal in time and expenses.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:16 PM   #7990
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They are both fine to me.
Maybe I could try both, one going there and the other coming back.

What do you suggest?
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Old June 21st, 2010, 12:55 PM   #7991
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The Great Belt Bridge is awesome and it'd be a pity not to use it at least once. On the other hand, the ferry saves you about 1h of driving (although the arrival time will be roughly the same), but since you plan to split the trip in two days it shouldn't matter that much.

If you'd decide to use the ferry and if you'd have 2-2.5 hours to spare, you should visit the cliffs of Mn (2x40km detour). They are a spectacular sight. Note for the telecommunication geeks: you can receive 11 cellular networks from the top of the cliff

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Old June 21st, 2010, 03:06 PM   #7992
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You could take Chris' route and Storebelt Bridge one way, and on the way back take the ferry between Gedser and Rostock (takes only about 2h), A9 to Munich, A95 to Garmisch, and on to Innsbruck Sd on national roads. That way you can avoid buying the Austrian vignette and you don't have to take the same highways twice.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 10:46 PM   #7993
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(Premium) Gas price in Europe:

Country Average gasoline price premium
Russia 0.81
Belarus 0.82
Cyprus 0.90
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.04
Romania 1.07
Latvia 1.09
Serbia 1.10
Bulgaria 1.12
Liechtenstein 1.12
Malta 1.12
Estonia 1.13
Luxembourg 1.14
Macedonia 1.14
Spain 1.15
Croatia 1.17
Poland 1.18
Latvia 1.19
Montenegro 1.19
Austria 1.21
Hungary 1.21
Switzerland 1.22
Slovenia 1.22
Average EUROPE 1.25
Slovakia 1.26
Czech Republic 1.26
Ireland 1.34
Italy 1.36
Belgium 1.37
France 1.37
Portugal 1.40
Germany 1.43
Finland 1.43
Sweden 1.43
Greece 1.45
Great Britain 1.48
Denmark 1.55
Netherlands 1.56
Norway 1.71
Turkey 1.88

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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:17 PM   #7994
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Huge difference between Russia and Turkey
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:24 PM   #7995
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Yes it is, but I don't see why is gas so expensive in a rather-poor country which is close to the Arabic zone.

PS: Chris, come in Eastern Europe with a gas truck and park it in your yard after that if you want to be rich.
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I don't understand why Turkey has such high gas prices. It significantly limits the (social) mobility of the lower- and even middle class.
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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:32 PM   #7997
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(Premium) Gas price in Europe:

Country Average gasoline price premium
Russia 0.81
Belarus 0.82
Cyprus 0.90
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.04
Romania 1.07
Latvia 1.09
Serbia 1.10
Bulgaria 1.12
Liechtenstein 1.12
Malta 1.12
Estonia 1.13
Luxembourg 1.14
Macedonia 1.14
Spain 1.15
Croatia 1.17
Poland 1.18
Latvia 1.19
Montenegro 1.19
Austria 1.21
Hungary 1.21
Switzerland 1.22
Slovenia 1.22
Average EUROPE 1.25
Slovakia 1.26
Czech Republic 1.26
Ireland 1.34
Italy 1.36
Belgium 1.37
France 1.37
Portugal 1.40
Germany 1.43
Finland 1.43
Sweden 1.43
Greece 1.45
Great Britain 1.48
Denmark 1.55
Netherlands 1.56
Norway 1.71
Turkey 1.88

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Why is Latvia mentioned two times?
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The official results of the I round of presidential election in Poland were published. Earlier polls showed that actually only two candidates mattered - one was catholic-conservative Jarosław Kaczyński, the other was liberal-but-still-pretty-conservative Bronisław Komorowski. The results were 41.54% for Komorowski and 36.46% for Kaczyński, which mean that we'll have a second round in two weeks.

What is interesting is that geographical arrangement of the results. It shows that the political views of the East and the West of country differ significantly.
What is even MORE interesting is that the visible boundinary roughly corresponds (excluding big cities) with the Russian-Prussian and Prussian-Austrian borders from the 19. centrury (when Poland was under the joint Russian-Prussian-Austrian occupation). Astonishing.

Votes for Komorowski:


Votes for Kaczyński:

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Old June 21st, 2010, 11:52 PM   #7999
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The official results of the I round of presidential election in Poland were published. Earlier polls showed that actually only two candidates mattered - one was catholic-conservative Lech Kaczyński, the other was liberal-but-still-pretty-conservative Bronisław Komorowski. The results were 41.54% for Komorowski and 36.46% for Kaczyński, which mean that we'll have a second round in two weeks.

What is interesting is that geographical arrangement of the results. It shows that the political views of the East and the West of country differ significantly.
What is even MORE interesting is that the visible boundinary roughly corresponds (excluding big cities) with the Russian-Prussian and Prussian-Austrian borders from the 19. centrury (when Poland was under the joint Russian-Prussian-Austrian occupation). Astonishing.
I don't think that Lech Kaczyński was in the race for presidency in Poland, because of this. I think you wanted to say Jarosław Kaczyński.

@RipleyLV: I don't know why there are 2 Latvias. I just copy-paste the original article.
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I don't think that Lech Kaczyński was in the race for presidency in Poland. I think you wanted to say Jarosław Kaczyński.
Shit, sorry. For 4 years I've written "President Lech Kaczyński", it had become an automatic habit...
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