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Old July 24th, 2010, 08:47 PM   #8241
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As an economist with deep knowledge of statistics, I take pity on that declaration. The raw data (freely accessible) produced by the ISTAT is trustworthy and they have extremely competent (and underpaid) professionals there.
Since you are an economist, you cannot say otherwise. It's like asking to a bartender if the wine is good

I have some skills myself on statistics (not on economics, sadly), but just thinking at the fact that the house rent is just 2% of the basket makes me laugh out loud... or cry, if you prefer.
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Old July 24th, 2010, 08:52 PM   #8242
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I'm more worried about the perpetual rise of excise duties on consumer goods (like fuel). They say they want to keep it up with inflation, but it is creating inflation itself too. Commodities are often for a large proportion responsible for inflation.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 12:02 AM   #8243
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Then you have different inflation measures. Indeed, any decent European countries will have at least 4 or 5 different measures for inflation. Sometimes things get tricky because the "main" inflation index followed by the "specialized" press is measuring a slightly different thing related to the index in other country. For instance, the CPI (Consumer Price Index), one of the 13 inflation measures officially calculated in US, excludes food and energy from its calculations. Most European countries do not (they have "core" inflation indexes too, but they are usually not the ones followed by the press).

There is booming field on economics studying this kinds of perception effects. Almost everyone notices and ranted when fuel prices skyrocketed from mid-2007 until August-2008. Then, even though as prices (retail, inclusive of everything) receded in almost all countries save for those who kept increasing gas taxes, there was no equivalent perception of price falls. Thus, even though prices are not near their 2008 peak now, many people keep complaining about the "restless increase of gas for 3 years".

It would be negligible, but compounded to the whole population of a country, this misguided perceptions can affect consumer choice, demand aggregates etc. etc.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 01:32 AM   #8244
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hehe, you're lucky. but I don't understand how is that cheaper, normaly you pay more if you request a service at home.
note that i wrote illegaly she doesn't have registred firm for that - that's why it's cheaper.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 11:26 AM   #8245
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Train conductors should not be selling tickets in first place. It's 2010, way too late to have conductors selling tickets instead of electronic ticketing or RFID cards everywhere.

They should concentrate only on giving information and fining people without tickets.
RFID cards will be introduced next year on commuter trains but even then the activation process of a single ticket will be left for the ticket encounter. That has a simple phsycological reason: people are more likely to buy a ticket when the ticket salesman/women is in the train. Elektriraudtee, that runs our commuter trains, experimented with pre-bought tickets that could be validated on the train but it just didn't work...ticket sales went down because you can't check every train.
Furthermore, we have lots of very small train stops that don't have the needed facilities for ticket sales and it's cheaper to have a ticket salesman/woman in the train than a ticket machine in every small stop.
Labour costs are still relatively low in Estonia so this system pays off and works rather well for us. You can be someone who drives every day and hasn't used PT for 10 years but if you need to use a train that one day, it's all relatively easy if you have a bit of cash.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #8246
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Trucks! Very loud trucks! (this went on for at least 2 hours, after I left, and there seems to be some congestion even now after 4 hours)

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Old July 25th, 2010, 09:38 PM   #8247
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What the hell is wrong there?
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Old July 25th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #8248
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What the hell is wrong there?
Did you read the title of the video?
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Old July 25th, 2010, 11:50 PM   #8249
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Did you read the title of the video?
Yes, I saw it. But I still don't get the idea. Why are all those trucks sounding their horns and flashing their lights? I know they are comming from a festival and maybe they are drunk, but come on, you don't do that on the motorway for 4 hours.
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Old July 26th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #8250
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Yes, I saw it. But I still don't get the idea. Why are all those trucks sounding their horns and flashing their lights? I know they are comming from a festival and maybe they are drunk, but come on, you don't do that on the motorway for 4 hours.
It seems to me that there is a bunch of spectators at the rest area right next to the motorway watching the trucks.
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Old July 26th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #8251
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Most overpasses and roadsides were packed with people, sometimes 200 people on a single overpass. 2,000 trucks (often special ones!) leave the Truckstar Festival in Assen, and most use A28 to return south.
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Old July 26th, 2010, 01:07 AM   #8252
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Most overpasses and roadsides were packed with people, sometimes 200 people on a single overpass. 2,000 trucks (often special ones!) leave the Truckstar Festival in Assen, and most use A28 to return south.
They should have taken a highway that wasn't undergoing roadworks!
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Old July 26th, 2010, 01:44 PM   #8253
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Old July 26th, 2010, 03:32 PM   #8254
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Wow! That was in the Netherlands? Did someone die?

Btw, Do you remember floods in Miskolc? I just find some pics on a Slovak site from some store..

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Old July 26th, 2010, 04:10 PM   #8255
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only half meter.

they should have raised the terrain only by half meter...
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Old July 28th, 2010, 09:19 PM   #8256
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Interesting centreline, 1940
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Old July 28th, 2010, 11:44 PM   #8257
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http://denverpost.slideshowpro.com/a...JPG?1280320653

Very interesting picture. Where has it been taken, by the way?
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Old July 28th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #8258
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Caribou, Maine
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Old July 29th, 2010, 02:41 AM   #8259
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I need to ask - is SSC XL not working? I'm surfing in work because I have no internet at home at the moment and the rate the banner and other pages won't load at all. It could just be my shoddy work network though.
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Old July 29th, 2010, 03:51 AM   #8260
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