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Old September 15th, 2010, 11:14 PM   #8541
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I am little bit shocked because there were not any Slovaks and not even Slavs except of you!
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Old September 16th, 2010, 12:53 PM   #8542
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I've already driven a Silver Shadow II (1978), it was magnificent, not comparable to anything else I've driven so far. Also this was my first experience with a right hand drive car
Consumption is about 20 l/100 km, but this car has a 6.75 litre V8 engine after all...
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Old September 17th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #8543
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Earlier in the Evening a Tornado swept through NYC , uprooting trees , flipping cars and trucks and knocking out power to thousands. Train service was also disrupted for Millions as the storm knocked over trees onto busy trunk lines. I was lucky and escaped with alot of rain and some wind. But the sky turned midnight dark and the havens opened up.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #8544
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Rainy weekend started today. Three days of pure rain are forecasted, already some underpasses are flooded. Who knows, what can we still expect.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #8545
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Its amazing... I mean the language. The Dutch is really so different in every place where they use it. Its almost impossible to learn the "BBC" dutch, let alone that it is almost uselles, since they will think you speak different just few km further in the country... This Belgium example just underlines it.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:37 PM   #8546
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That is rural Flemish, which can differ significantly from the Dutch spoken in the Netherlands.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #8547
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Was it so different that the subtitles were necessary, or it was just because it was some kind of audition for hearing-impared?

Do Dutchmen or Flemish (is this the correct word for people from Flanders?) from various parts of the country/countries often have problems understanding each other?
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Old September 17th, 2010, 05:46 PM   #8548
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Was it so different that the subtitles were necessary, or it was just because it was some kind of audition for hearing-impared?

Do Dutchmen or Flemish (is this the correct word for people from Flanders?) from various parts of the country/countries often have problems understanding each other?
I would say they dont have real problems, but occasional confusion, especially when someone from Den Haag come to Friesland (and I am not talking here about spoken Frisian but Dutch in Friesland). Generally you could say that every province has its own sort of dialect, even more cities and villiges can differ either (so you move few km and they speak bit different there), at least in my understanding of the spoken language here. But I have this confirmed by dutchmen who moved to different regions and had to repeat sentences now and then to be understood or to understand.

Tell me how easy it is to learn it then when you never know what is the "right" pronunciation... And the problem is really different pronunciation of the same grapheme.

In general I see that it is rather complicated to learn a language from the people of the country, nearly impossible without normal textbook and lessons to really get grip of the language grammer. But I guess that is the same everywhere, just never had that experience before.

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Old September 17th, 2010, 05:51 PM   #8549
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Was it so different that the subtitles were necessary, or it was just because it was some kind of audition for hearing-impared?

Do Dutchmen or Flemish (is this the correct word for people from Flanders?) from various parts of the country/countries often have problems understanding each other?
Most TV shows from Flanders are subtitled in the Netherlands, even though it is often quite reasonably understandable.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:13 PM   #8550
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I'm a beggining learner of Dutch. So far the only thing I know is that in Belgium the river would be called Ij and not IJ.

I have a classmate from Frisland. Rural Frisland indeed (from Minnerstga or somewhere written like that). Strange as it might seem, when she speaks Dutch more slowly it is the easiest for me do understand so far. Maybe that is because I like her, but that is another issue.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #8551
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in Croatia we actually don't have a region or city where people speak standard Croatian. each region has something special, mostly accents, but often words. some people say that around Sisak they speak the closest to standard.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #8552
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But wikipedia says somthing different.

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There are three principal dialects: Shtokavian, Chakavian, and Kajkavian, along with a few Croatian speakers of a fourth, Torlakian. The literary and standard language is based on Shtokavian, which is also the basis of Standard Serbian, Bosnian, and Montenegrin.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:36 PM   #8553
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Slavic guys! I was reading newspaper and I found interesting article about that - http://steen.free.fr/slovianski/index.html

you must see it and tell how are you feeling about that new Slavic language
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Old September 17th, 2010, 10:34 PM   #8554
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Old September 18th, 2010, 06:13 AM   #8555
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Haha, I recognize a lot of the places in the video from my trip a few months ago

How come the women around 1:48 in the video pronounce the "R" like in English, but the rest sounds pretty Dutch to me? Is that a dialectal difference or just a joke?
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Old September 18th, 2010, 11:12 AM   #8556
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That is how the "r" is pronounced in certain areas of western Netherlands, often associated with "snobbish" language. I think the normal Dutch "r" is rather close to the Italian "r".
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Old September 18th, 2010, 08:19 PM   #8557
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Old September 18th, 2010, 08:44 PM   #8558
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Oh my god, I thought that was a joke, but it actually does exist! How on earth can they approve something hideous like that?
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Old September 18th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #8559
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Just one word - Gýč/Kič/Kitsch/Inverdan

Open this Dutch wiki article "Inverdan" and what do you see?

yeah!

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverdan

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Inntel Hotel, dit hotel zal 160 kamers en diverse recreatiemogelijkheden gaan krijgen. Het hotel is een ontwerp van Wilfried van Winden en is een compositie van diverse Zaanse die zijn gestapeld en samengebracht tot één groot gebouw. De oplevering was in maart 2010.
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