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Old October 19th, 2010, 10:45 PM   #8781
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It's weird that the Netherlands has an exonym for California (Californië), but not for the state of Georgia, but we do for the country Georgia (Georgië).
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Old October 19th, 2010, 10:50 PM   #8782
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Yes, I know you don't I just gave the example from Czech Republic because there is no such destination as Dresden in Slovakia.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #8783
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It's weird that the Netherlands has an exonym for California (Californië), but not for the state of , but we do for the country Georgia (Georgië).
It's quite confusing with Georgias in Dutch, then. More logically would have been the other way round, US state - Georgië analogically to Californië, country - Georgia.
Interestingly, Georgians call their country utterly differently: Sakartvelo and we, Poles say Gruzja.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 11:38 PM   #8784
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There are some other interesting examples of countries with totally different English exonyms and endonyms. Germany, Hungary, Greece, Finland, Algeria, India, China, both Koreas...
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Old October 20th, 2010, 12:46 AM   #8785
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There are some other interesting examples of countries with totally different English exonyms and endonyms. Germany, Hungary, Greece, Finland, Algeria, India, China, both Koreas...
Well, it's similar in many languages. For example Slovak -

Germany=Nemecko (like in other Slavic languages we had a chat about it-in each Slavic language "Slovo" means word - Slovania (people who speak in words, "Nemi" (means people who can't speak) Nemci means Germans ), Hungary=Maďarsko but Hungaria understand everybody and it's also used in Hungary - Hungária, Greece=Grécko, Finland=Fínsko, Algeria=Alžírsko, India=India, China=Čína, Korea=Korea

Who knows how this even happened?

Btw, after cow in tunnel something another from Slovak motorways

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Just 3 hours ago there was a homeless walking to the tunnel Sitina (in Bratislava) on a motorway D2. Emergency services than found him lying near a hard shoulder.

also with short video - http://tvnoviny.sk/spravy/regiony/te...zi-autami.html

cow, few weeks ago

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Oh man, this was a real adventure, cow in Branisko tunnel!
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Old October 20th, 2010, 02:45 AM   #8786
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That's pretty hilarious. Btw, once I saw a cow on the southern Ljubljana bypass.

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in each Slavic language "Slovo" means word
In Slovenian language word is called "beseda", while "slovo" means farewell.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 01:36 PM   #8787
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Old October 20th, 2010, 02:35 PM   #8788
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Geez, that is some reckless driving... How fast did he go? 80 - 90 km/h? The speed limit in inner Brussels is 30 km/h. (50 km/h on major roads).
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Old October 20th, 2010, 05:04 PM   #8789
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The impact was with 115 km/h. And he fled the scene afraid of being lynched which would have been totally deserved. What is the punishment for such things in Belgium or The Netherlands?
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Old October 20th, 2010, 05:57 PM   #8790
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lol this cow in tunnel is hilarious! stupid curious animal!
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Old October 20th, 2010, 06:48 PM   #8791
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Old October 21st, 2010, 05:39 AM   #8792
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Well, it's similar in many languages. For example Slovak -

Germany=Nemecko (like in other Slavic languages we had a chat about it-in each Slavic language "Slovo" means word - Slovania (people who speak in words, "Nemi" (means people who can't speak) Nemci means Germans ), Hungary=Maďarsko but Hungaria understand everybody and it's also used in Hungary - Hungária, Greece=Grécko, Finland=Fínsko, Algeria=Alžírsko, India=India, China=Čína, Korea=Korea
In Russian, some names are very different:
Hungary=Vengria, China=Kitai (some interesting background). Also, Germany is simply "Germania", but the German people are referred to as "Nemci"

In Hebrew, while it is not as interesting to this discussion (because it's not Slavic), some names have a historic origin and are very different:
Greece=Yavan, India=Hodu, China=Sin.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 06:55 PM   #8793
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In Russian, some names are very different:
Hungary=Vengria, China=Kitai

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We call Hungary-Węgry, so its ethymology seems to be the same as Russian.

Kitai- Well, I know now where a Polish colloquial name for Chinese people comes from.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 08:22 PM   #8794
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In Spanish Germany is called Alemania.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 11:03 PM   #8795
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Some examples from Estonian:

Germany - Saksamaa
Sweden - Rootsi
Russia - Venemaa
France - Prantsusmaa
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Old October 21st, 2010, 11:21 PM   #8796
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Some examples from Estonian:

Germany - Saksamaa
Sweden - Rootsi
Russia - Venemaa
France - Prantsusmaa
Well, Estonian and Lithuanian are totaly different from another languages..

Slovak language -

Germany - Nemecko
Sweden - Švédsko
Russia - Rusko
France - Francúzsko

and another one -

England - Anglicko
UK - Spojené kráľovstvo (Veľkej Británie a Severného Írska)
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Interesting is the Dutch - Holland - Netherlands issue.

In the Netherlands, we say "Nederland" (singular). The English form is plural (De Nederlanden). Holland strictly refers to 2 out of 12 provinces, but can also be used as an international marketing term. Nearly all Dutch trucks, whether they're from Groningen or Limburg, say "Holland" as their country of origin. The country code, of course, is NL.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 11:55 PM   #8798
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It must be interesting with Frisians too, whose land is stretched within 3 other Germanic countries. I am wondering whether they call themselves sometimes Dutch, Germans or not? Maybe some of them, maybe younger people do so.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 01:48 PM   #8799
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It must be interesting with Frisians too, whose land is stretched within 3 other Germanic countries. I am wondering whether they call themselves sometimes Dutch, Germans or not? Maybe some of them, maybe younger people do so.
I believe there is no issue here. Tyrol is split between two countries (Italy and Austria), as well as Carnia (Italy and Slovenia) or Insubria (Italy and Switzerland). I think in each part they call themselves Italian or Austrian/Slovenian/Swiss, with the possible exception of Tyrol which has a strong Austrian identity even on the Italian side.
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It must be interesting with Frisians too, whose land is stretched within 3 other Germanic countries. I am wondering whether they call themselves sometimes Dutch, Germans or not? Maybe some of them, maybe younger people do so.
I don't know about the Frisians in Germany or Denmark, but the Frisians from "Fryslân" are sometimes more Fries than Dutch, especially the "farmers". It is deep in their heads, however they would not make an problem of it I guess... they are neverthless all rather proud people. Anyway, when outside the NL, they like to be just Dutch in the end .

BTW, I dont think there is many people in NL that would feel or call themselves German.

BBTW, Friesland was there before there was anything that would have to do with words Netherlands or Holland conceived.
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