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Old October 22nd, 2010, 04:59 PM   #8801
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as well as Carnia (Italy and Slovenia)
There's no Carnia in Slovenia. It doesn't even border it. From Wikipedia:
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It [Carnia] covers the western and central part of the Carnic Alps mountain range in the Province of Udine, therefore it borders Veneto and Austria (Carinthia), but not Slovenia.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 05:59 PM   #8802
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There's no Carnia in Slovenia. It doesn't even border it. From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnia
OOps, you're right. I meant Carso/Kras, not Carnia.
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Old October 22nd, 2010, 06:25 PM   #8803
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The Frisian flag is quite funny. Remembers a postcard for teenagers in love or so.

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Old October 23rd, 2010, 03:02 AM   #8804
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Interesting is the Dutch - Holland - Netherlands issue.

In the Netherlands, we say "Nederland" (singular). The English form is plural (De Nederlanden). Holland strictly refers to 2 out of 12 provinces, but can also be used as an international marketing term. Nearly all Dutch trucks, whether they're from Groningen or Limburg, say "Holland" as their country of origin. The country code, of course, is NL.
In Estonian the official name of the Netherlands is also Holland. When we refer to the Netherlands or "the low-lands" as it can be literally translated, we usually mean Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg combined.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 03:14 AM   #8805
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In Estonian the official name of the Netherlands is also Holland. When we refer to the Netherlands or "the low-lands" as it can be literally translated, we usually mean Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg combined.
Almost the same in italian. Both "Olanda" and "Paesi Bassi" (low-lands, plural) are used, the latter being a more formal expression, which nobody will use in a conversation.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 10:40 AM   #8806
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Almost the same in italian. Both "Olanda" and "Paesi Bassi" (low-lands, plural) are used, the latter being a more formal expression, which nobody will use in a conversation.
Absolutely the same in Romanian. We only use "Olanda" in our usual conversations. "Ţările de Jos" (low-lands, plural) it is used rarely, mainly at the official events. Still, the Dutch ambassador is officially called "Amabasadorul Regatului Ţărilor de Jos", which literally means "The Ambassador of the Kingdom of the Low-Lands".
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 12:21 PM   #8807
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Same in Portuguese

"Holanda"-singular and feminine
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"Países-Baixos"-Plural and masculine-means "Low Countries"
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In the UK, Holland is generally used, the Netherlands is used sometimes and the Low Countries is used more rarely,
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The official name for the countries in PT and Eng are, respectively

"Reino dos Países Baixos"
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"Kingdom of the Netherlands"
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 12:50 PM   #8808
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I believe there are rules to write about "the Netherlands" in British newspapers, and not Holland, unless the article is about the football team.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 01:35 PM   #8809
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Why is that rule? If people like to call your country Holland and not Netherlands, what's wrong with that?

In Romania we only say "Olanda", and up to the age of 14 I didn't knew that "Olanda" (Holland) and ""the Netherlands" is the same country
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 02:00 PM   #8810
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In Spanish there are Holanda and Países Bajos for that country. I prefer to say Países Bajos when the thing it's in the Netherlads, but not in Holland (Holanda).
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 02:33 PM   #8811
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Why is that rule? If people like to call your country Holland and not Netherlands, what's wrong with that?
Because Holland is simply not a correct synonym for the Netherlands. Holland compromises 2 out of 12 provinces. 10 out of 16 million people do not live in the Holland part.
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 02:59 PM   #8812
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And that's why I refer to you as a neerlandés, not as a holandés, although the first word sounds bad in Spanish...
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 04:30 PM   #8813
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Because Holland is simply not a correct synonym for the Netherlands. Holland compromises 2 out of 12 provinces. 10 out of 16 million people do not live in the Holland part.
Well in Slovak it is also like Holland. Slovak for the Netherlands is "Holandsko".
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Old October 23rd, 2010, 05:32 PM   #8814
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Well, after all those issues, I propose to create a thread where put all our motorway ideas around the world, even destroying half of some cities. How about that?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:08 AM   #8815
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Well, Estonian and Lithuanian are totaly different from another languages..
Actually, you probably meant Estonian, Finnish, and Hungarian. Lithuanian is an Indo-European language and is hence related to most of the languages in Europe (actually, linguistically it is a pretty interesting language, as it's one of the most conservative and retains a lot of archaic features that were since lost in the other IE languages).
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:48 AM   #8816
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Actually, you probably meant Estonian, Finnish, and Hungarian. Lithuanian is an Indo-European language and is hence related to most of the languages in Europe (actually, linguistically it is a pretty interesting language, as it's one of the most conservative and retains a lot of archaic features that were since lost in the other IE languages).
I did a mistake.

Well, I bet Hungarian is quite a lot based on Asian languages or there is any Asian influence so I am wondering how is that possible that Finish sounds a bit similar.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 01:50 AM   #8817
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Guys, I just didn't want to post this to Guess the highway so try guess there where might be this place..











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Old October 24th, 2010, 02:16 AM   #8818
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Officially linguists say that the Hungarian language is Finno-Ugric, but it doesn't means that it's necessarily true. (This week we learnt exactly about this, but only about the official version, we will learn the unofficial next week.) The finno-ugrists say there are a lot of similarity in Hungarian and other Finno-Ugrist languages like the Finnish for example the number "two" is "két"(kettő) in Hunagrian and "kahte" in Finnish, or the "winter" is "tél" and "talve". And there are regular changes in words for example the Finnish "p" changed to "f" in Hungarian: "tree": "puu" --> "fa"; or the "pot": "pata" --> "fazék". And they say that our closest relatives are the Voguls and the Ostyaks whose language we couldn't understand... So I tink it couldn't be true, only that our ancestors lived in the same place together for a while.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 02:55 AM   #8819
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Guys, I just didn't want to post this to Guess the highway so try guess there where might be this place..
Slovakia, isn't it? I don't remember the name of the place. They offer off-roading and desert driving courses.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 04:26 AM   #8820
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Looks like we're one of rare nations that prefer the word 'Netherlands' (Nizozemska) to 'Holland' (Holandija). Only old people use 'Holandija' here.
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