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Old January 21st, 2011, 11:43 PM   #9401
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Try Hungarian language: guess (without google-ing) which cityes are Bécs and Pozsony (they are even signed on motorway signs ).
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 12:04 AM   #9402
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Speaking of landslides, take a look at Brazil last week:






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Old January 22nd, 2011, 12:28 AM   #9403
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I prefer domestic names of cities. I.e. Antwerpen, Roma, Wien, Warszawa, Křbenhavn, etc.
or perhaps Krung Thep Mahanakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Yuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Phiman Awatan Sathit Sakkathattiya Witsanukam Prasit
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 12:30 AM   #9404
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Nah, I'll just stick to Bangkok or Krung Thep. I don't think locals pronounce the whole train of words every time they mention the city
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 12:33 AM   #9405
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Try Hungarian language: guess (without google-ing) which cityes are Bécs and Pozsony (they are even signed on motorway signs ).
Bécs=Vienna.
Pozsony=Bratislava?
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 12:39 AM   #9406
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Bécs=Vienna.
Pozsony=Bratislava?
yes. they also have some hungarized names in Romania and Croatia. for Croatia i know Eszék, Veröce, Kapronca, Varasd (and Zágráb, which is understandable). but i have never understood why they use italian form for Rijeka (Fiume), nor why they've never introduced Lyublyána
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 12:44 AM   #9407
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yes. they also have some hungarized names in Romania and Croatia. for Croatia i know Eszék, Veröce, Kapronca, Varasd (and Zágráb, which is understandable). but i have never understood why they use italian form for Rijeka (Fiume), nor why they've never introduced Lyublyána
We have "Záhreb", but just a few people use it. H and G always goes like this in Croatian/Slovakian -

Circle/Kruh (SK)/Krug (HR)

I use also Zagreb.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 01:02 AM   #9408
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they also have some hungarized names in Romania and Croatia.
These are not hungarized names but old hungarian names of the cities. There are lot of them in Slovakia, Romania, Serbia and a few in Slovenia. Croatia is a bit special, because the hungarian population was lower there, so only a few cities have hungarian name where there were a bit more hungarians like Eszék(Osijek), Varasd(Varaždin), etc. The Fiume name for Rijeka could come from Latin language, when it was part of Hungary.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 04:47 AM   #9409
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I took these form the train this morning as we rocketting through Queens enroute to Beantown aka Bostin...Big Dig / Zakim Bridge photos will go up late Sunday / Early Monday.

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Old January 22nd, 2011, 08:03 AM   #9410
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Hey, Nexis, I don't like your ideas about transit, but you take great pictures. Congrats.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 08:24 AM   #9411
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Brazilian biofuels program: a huge success

In what is likely one of the most underrated successes of renewable fuel programs, Brazil had a another great year in 2009.

Some data to entertain you:

Transportation fuel sales 2009, 1.000mł*
Ethanol (E100) - 16.470 - includes 2% water, used directly on cars, 67% of Brazilian car fleet runs solely or also on ethanol
Gasoline - 19.560
Dehydrated ethanol - 5.840 (added to gasoline, addition (21-25%) is mandatory since late 80's)
Diesel - 43.404
Biodiesel - 885
Aviation fuel - 5.490

Transportation fuel sales 2000, 1.000mł*
Ethanol (E100) - 4.603
Gasoline - 18.104
Dehydrated ethanol - 4.526
Diesel - 35.151
Aviation fuel - 4.410

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Car + motorcycle fleet as of 2009 was 48.350.000, 72% increase over 2.000. On a rough average, each light vehicle used 72 liters of automotive fuel per month in 2009.

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99%+ of Brazilian ethanol is made from sugar cane, with a energy net yield (units of energy delivered on fuel per (units of energy used in the cultivation/processing - units of other forms of energy - electricity - generated as byproduct)) of 8:1 to 11:1. As comparison North American corn ethanol yield 1.4:1 to 1.9:1, reason by which ethanol plants in US run on coal/oil electricity, not in energy produced by ethanol itself.

Brazil uses 76.000km˛ for sugar cane cultivation. Of the harvested sugar cane, more than 56% is used to produce sugar (of which Brazilian is the larger exporter) and ethanol for export. Brazil has more than 5.000.000km˛ of land suitable for agricultural practices (more if you consider modern crop cultivation techniques for rainforest-cleared areas), of which the biggest use is 2.140.000km˛ for pastures (there are 216 million livestock out there, confined/caged operations are minimal, almost all livestock is free range hence the use area usage).

So, in practice, little less than 40.000km˛ is used for ethanol used for internal market, and that amounts to 51% of all fuels used by cars (diesel cars are forbidden in Brazil since early 70's) and 26% of all land transportation fuel consumption (freight trains included, all of them running on diesel).

Sugar cane cultivation also yield a lot of biomass as byproduct, though little is commercially explored for electricity production for the general grid still (just 2.800MWh/year out of estimated 24.000MWh/year). Those figures do not include electricity ethanol plants generate for their own use (they do not draw electricity from general grid unless for low usage outside the harvest season, when machines are pretty much shut down).

I really consider that a great achievement.
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* fuel density data: 1mł = 1000 liters = 796kg ethanol, 719kg gasoline or 834kg diesel
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 11:37 AM   #9412
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So all diesel is consumed by trains and trucks, not by cars?
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 02:59 PM   #9413
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Try Hungarian language: guess (without google-ing) which cityes are Bécs and Pozsony (they are even signed on motorway signs ).
Like 'Budapesta' in Romania.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 03:27 PM   #9414
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Like 'Budapesta' in Romania.
You're right. Still, I think it's understandable for foreign drivers.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 03:59 PM   #9415
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 05:04 PM   #9416
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why would anyone begrudge us naming the towns that were TAKEN AWAY from us in our own country in our own language?
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 05:09 PM   #9417
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You're right. Still, I think it's understandable for foreign drivers.
Debrețin and Seghedin, even Varșovia or Londra are kinda harder to recognize to some people (especially written). i tried to catch you at München because i expeced that you in Romanian also have some nonsense name as Italians, but you don't
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 05:30 PM   #9418
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why would anyone begrudge us naming the towns that were TAKEN AWAY from us in our own country in our own language?
You can name it anything you want to name it. Signage, however, is not meant for political purposes, but to guide travelers to their destination.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 05:35 PM   #9419
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Debrețin and Seghedin, even Varșovia or Londra are kinda harder to recognize to some people (especially written). i tried to catch you at München because i expeced that you in Romanian also have some nonsense name as Italians, but you don't


Well, we have Florenţa for Firenze (where ţ is pronounced like c in Croat), Salonic for Thessaloniki and Moscova for Moskva/Moskow.

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why would anyone begrudge us naming the towns that were TAKEN AWAY from us in our own country in our own language?
Relax, of course you can name it in your own language. This is not a political debate, bogdymol was just saying that Bécs or Pozsony might sound strange for some, as Romanian Florenţa might sound strange for Italians.

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Old January 22nd, 2011, 05:36 PM   #9420
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