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Old February 9th, 2011, 05:45 PM   #9621
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So do the Russians,Italians,Slavs etc...

So thats an good thing. I cant believe how things were in Holland with the all the morrocans and turkish street thugs there and the government doesnt take any steps whatsoever to put them in jail or even send them back to their own country. I am actually very pro that be it Albanians or whatever nationality if they cant behave in the country they are living in the government should just send them back.
Well, Its still the same with the Marrocans and Turks in Holland, Belgium or the whole of central/western europe for that matter... Morrocan and turk 'gangs' make neighborhoods unsave and especially have something against everyone who isn't Islam... But in Belgium ,jails are full, young offenders are back on the streets in a matter of hours, police have no authority anymore and don't feel like doing their jobs anymore in cases where North africans are involved, because it really doesn't matter because they are set free next day. Criminality rates amoung young N-Africans skyrocket as does the % of people without a diploma or job...(up to 40% and higher)

There is no way sending them back. Most of them are born here and are second and third generation. They are citizens of the EU and Belgium.Just not very good ones...

Enough said about this because I got my as banned already once for speaking on this subject. Everything said bad and what is the truth about N-Africans in Europe is regarded as Islamofobia and racism, everywhere, not only on this forum. That's why people have no way to speak up, If one speaks up,one is a racist.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:43 PM   #9622
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Let´s stop it!!! There must be a reason we call it european culture, although there are 40+ countries in Europe.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 10:10 PM   #9623
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I have a skiing trip to plan, the problem is that in the past years we've only traveled on Saturday. This year we're going on Sunday and I want to know if the traffic near the Alps allows to make an excursion to Italy in one day... On Saturdays it's almost impossible, but it's the Saturday when most people travel, so it might be better.
Usually there is quite a lot of traffic on winter weekends in the Alps, but never large queues like in summer. I never heard of some big traffic before important tunnels because of "skiing traffic".
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Old February 9th, 2011, 10:16 PM   #9624
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There is significant traffic congestion on the Austrian A12, German A8 and A93 and sometimes on German A9. The tunnels are less of a problem as many ski destinations are before the tunnels, unlike summer holiday destinations which are generally south of the tunnels.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #9625
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German A8 south of Munich is almost always congested ...
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #9626
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München - Rosenheim has 6 lanes, Rosenheim - Salzburg has 4 lanes with a very outdated alignment. Did you know Walserberg is the busiest border crossing in Europe? 75.000 vehicles per day.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:36 AM   #9627
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There is significant traffic congestion on the Austrian A12, German A8 and A93 and sometimes on German A9. The tunnels are less of a problem as many ski destinations are before the tunnels, unlike summer holiday destinations which are generally south of the tunnels.
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German A8 south of Munich is almost always congested ...
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München - Rosenheim has 6 lanes, Rosenheim - Salzburg has 4 lanes with a very outdated alignment. Did you know Walserberg is the busiest border crossing in Europe? 75.000 vehicles per day.
Don't scare me guys
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Old February 10th, 2011, 12:47 PM   #9628
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you're driving there soon? Yeah, rosenheim - salzburg is like normal local 4lane road.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 01:05 PM   #9629
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Don't scare me guys
Nothing very serious. You may encounter sporadic traffic jams, but mostly traffic flows ok.

Although, going for an one-day ski trip from Poland to Italy? Ridiculous, if you ask me.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #9630
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München - Rosenheim has 6 lanes, Rosenheim - Salzburg has 4 lanes with a very outdated alignment. Did you know Walserberg is the busiest border crossing in Europe? 75.000 vehicles per day.
It is so busy also because people use it to get from east of Austria to west (Salzburg-Innsbruck for example).

I have never seen this motorway(s) empty.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:30 PM   #9631
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It is so busy also because people use it to get from east of Austria to west (Salzburg-Innsbruck for example).
I will be doing exactly this thing on Sunday
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #9632
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Cheer up, the Rosenheim-Innsbruck stretch is not as congested as the Salzburg-Rosenheim
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:36 PM   #9633
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Cheer up, the Rosenheim-Innsbruck stretch is not as congested as the Salzburg-Rosenheim
Yes, but to reach Rosenheim - Innsbruck stretch I have to pass through Salzburg - Rosenheim stretch
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:39 PM   #9634
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:46 PM   #9635
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I will be doing exactly this thing on Sunday
Have a nice time Südtirol!

Last year - Salzburg - Kiefersfelden / A8 and A93 - http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2664
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:48 PM   #9636
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Thank you seem. I will take a look there.

later edit: OMG! Now that's a crowded motorway.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #9637
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Thank you seem. I will take a look there.
I can't imagine to go all the way down there from Romania though.

Btw, no Jasná this year?
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Old February 10th, 2011, 03:54 PM   #9638
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No. I've been at Jasná for 3 years, and everyone says that skiing in Austria is the best, so on Sunday morning I will have to cover up 1020 km to a ski resort near Innsbruck.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:04 PM   #9639
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No. I've been at Jasná for 3 years, and everyone says that skiing in Austria is the best, so on Sunday morning I will have to cover up 1020 km to a ski resort near Innsbruck.
You can avoid the crowdy A8 by using the more direct (25km less) and very nice route through Bad Reichenhall, Lofer, St. Johann. The road bypasses many settlements and it's a high quality one (many 2-level interchanges).
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Old February 10th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #9640
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You can avoid the crowdy A8 by using the more direct (25km less) and very nice route through Bad Reichenhall, Lofer, St. Johann. The road bypasses many settlements and it's a high quality one (many 2-level interchanges).
Thank you for the advice. I checked on Google Maps and it seems that it would be on;ly about 15-20 minutes longer. But I have to say that I never drove on German autobahn and I won't miss this oportunity
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