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Old April 24th, 2011, 11:25 PM   #9961
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What costs 80 euros, the bridge?
That is insane.
Wait until you see what they charge at the Euro Tunnel.
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Old April 24th, 2011, 11:34 PM   #9962
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This crash happened about 10 days ago. Quite rare for Slovakia.

And btw I have some random pics of German autobahns for you. ; )





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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:23 AM   #9963
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What costs 80 euros, the bridge?
That is insane.
and you pay similar amount for Storebaelt bridge, so just to reach Koebenhavn island
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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:42 AM   #9964
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and you pay similar amount for Storebaelt bridge, so just to reach Koebenhavn island
Yup. But let's face it, both bridges are spectacular.

Two years ago I made a long ride up to Nordkapp and back to Romania, crossing on both Danish bridges. But the strangest thing for me was in Norway, at the Nordkapptunnelen, a 6,8 km subsea tunnel linking Magerøya island and continental Norway, where I had to pay not only for the car & caravan, but also for each person inside my car.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:50 AM   #9965
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Two years ago I made a long ride up to Nordkapp and back to Romania, crossing on both Danish bridges. But the strangest thing for me was in Norway, at the Nordkapptunnelen, a 6,8 km subsea tunnel linking Magerøya island and continental Norway, where I had to pay not only for the car & caravan, but also for each person inside my car.


btw, what were approximative costs of your trip and how many days did it take?
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Old April 25th, 2011, 01:13 AM   #9966
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Yes, and the new connection to Germany will be even more expensive
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Old April 25th, 2011, 01:21 AM   #9967
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btw, what were approximative costs of your trip and how many days did it take?
Two guys and two girls in a car & caravan, sleeping only in campsites, about 1200 euros for each guy and 800 euros for each girl. Including tolls for Danish bridges, Norwegian bridges & tunnels, ferry between Finland and Estonia.
The entire trip took three weeks (which is fast for about 10.000 kms made). The route was RO --> H --> SK --> CZ --> D --> DK --> S --> N (Nordkapp) --> FIN --> EST --> LV --> LT --> PL --> SK --> HU --> RO.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 03:46 AM   #9968
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10,000 km in 3 weeks? Did you see anything at all?
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Old April 25th, 2011, 04:43 AM   #9969
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Old April 25th, 2011, 06:45 AM   #9970
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toll rates at the Oresund Bridge: http://uk.oresundsbron.com/page/2556
And it's four km long? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge is longer and costs about three bucks, eastbound only. (It's free westbound.)
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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:18 AM   #9971
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AFAIK the top of the pillars of Störe Belt bridge is the absolute heighest point of Denmark. You shall pay a lot for such famed places of interest ;-)
I was there four years ago but unfortunately I can't remember for the toll.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:43 AM   #9972
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And it's four km long? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge is longer and costs about three bucks, eastbound only. (It's free westbound.)
Yea , but the Chesapeake is not as nice or built with nice views. Around here Tolls range form 4-12$ , but our bridges are worth it because the view and detail put into them.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 10:47 AM   #9973
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And it's four km long? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge is longer and costs about three bucks, eastbound only. (It's free westbound.)
American tolls are much cheaper than European
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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:42 AM   #9974
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10,000 km in 3 weeks? Did you see anything at all?
Unfortunately three weeks was my entire leave in 2009. That's why I was forced to make the trip so fast. But the amazing landscape of Norway made it worth it. I will never forget it; you can't see such beauties in other parts of Europe, not even in Switzerland, Austria or Scotland.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:46 AM   #9975
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And it's four km long? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge is longer and costs about three bucks, eastbound only. (It's free westbound.)
The link is 15.9 km long (the bridge itself is 7.8km long, there is also a 4km tunnel and the rest of the road is placed on a artificial island where the bridge connects with tunnel).

EDIT:
Snowman159, there is actually a competition - you can take a ferry between Helsingør and Helsinborg - I remember it was about 250 - 300 DKK one way (there are 3 companies on this route, so the competition is fierce )

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Old April 25th, 2011, 11:55 AM   #9976
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And it's four km long? The Chesapeake Bay Bridge is longer and costs about three bucks, eastbound only. (It's free westbound.)
Actually, the bridge is 7.8km + a 4km underwater tunnel. Just saying. (edit: the llama beat me to it)

Maybe they simply charge that much because they can and there's no competition other than the much less convenient ferry (which probably costs about the same). Remember, the commuters and locals get much better deals, so they won't be complaining.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #9977
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I will never forget it; you can't see such beauties in other parts of Europe, not even in Switzerland, Austria or Scotland.
I agree, Norway is really amazing. The Alps otoh are completely overdeveloped.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 01:58 PM   #9978
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Snowman159, there is actually a competition - you can take a ferry between Helsingør and Helsinborg - I remember it was about 250 - 300 DKK one way (there are 3 companies on this route, so the competition is fierce )
That's what I meant. 300DKK is about the same as the bridge. So the owners of the bridge have nothing to gain by significantly undercutting their only competition, the ferries - especially since driving over the bridge is much more convenient.
With the ferries everything takes a lot longer, there's always some waiting involved, and on busy days you most likely have to book in advance and make sure you show up in time. On the bridge you can cross whenever you feel like it. So the bridge people could probably get away with more than 40EUR if they wanted to.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 03:32 PM   #9979
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toll rates at the Oresund Bridge: http://uk.oresundsbron.com/page/2556
Oh my God!

This is for the 17,3km long Ponte Vasco da Gama in Lisbon

http://www.lusoponte.pt/pvg_tarifas.asp

A car is €2.50
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Old April 25th, 2011, 04:29 PM   #9980
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But to be frank I think that only tourists pay the full amount. I may be a little bit fuzzy on the details, but I remember that with an electronic payment you can buy a subscription which reduces the cost of a crossing to 99 or 129 DKK (13 - 18€, depending on the day of the week), and the cost of subscription pays off after second or third crossing in the year. And if you daily commute over either of the bridges (Øresund- or Storebælt bridge), the tolls are tax-deductible.
Yep, and I think with BroBizz single crossings are every cheaper if you make more than 30 per month. Something like 2 - 3 EUR.
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