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Old August 13th, 2011, 02:15 AM   #10761
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I recommend you to use Google Maps while doing your clinched highways file. I use it to look for the road number.

I reccomend to use it also for new roads or motorways... but not the google maps (I have found a lot of mistakes and I suppose that you too...). I recommend to use the google street view!!!!!

In fact I remember one tunnel still not opened (maybe will be opened next winter after 11 years on works... maybe later) but in most navigators appeared as opened.

I knew it wasn't opened since one point and I avoided it... but I read news about drivers who followed navigator indications and... suddenly the road was closed!!.

I had a friend who tried a different trick!. He tried to have a look at google about the pics of the new road. And of course it was fantastic until the point where... it was closed.

He recommended (and so do I) to have a look there. Should it does not appear any photo at google street view (and full of photos in the surrounds...) better to choose a different way.

Actually, at least at Google it is correctly updated



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Old August 13th, 2011, 02:47 AM   #10762
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The M74 extension into Glasgow City Centre still hasn't appeared on Google Maps.

A new bypass in Figueira which is right next to the old road and sometimes on top, which is in turn next to the older road which was used by the EN109 until the 1980's appeared on Google Maps a couple of years before work began
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Old August 13th, 2011, 11:32 AM   #10763
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Going through Madrid is all toll-free motorway except those 90km in the N-II.

They are about 100 km more point to point. Should you want to avoid toll, I recommend it.
Should you are going to travel in "high season", I recommend it too.




Porto-Braganša-Zamora-Valladolid-Aranda-Soria-Zaragoza-Barcelona.






Which one?. Maybe someone can tell when it was opened.
In the other hand, I know one motorway that can be useful for avoiding traffic congestions but it appeared in tom-tom and other navigator two years after opening.







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AP-1 going through Vitoria. A paid alternative to the N-1. I think it opened three years ago. A little bit before according to my Tomtom at the time. I always downloaded the latest maps, and sometimes they were a little bit ahead. Before that I either used N-1 or A8 to Bilbao. I don't pay tolls, my boss does - so I just don't care. Same goes for the parallel toll roads going in and out of Madrid leading to all corners of the country, merging at a later stage with the normal motorways.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 11:37 AM   #10764
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As far as I know, it wasn't all opened at the same time. Maybe you show the part it wasn't opened still!!.

Anyways (a bit longer but free), A-1 goes from Irun to Vitoria and near Miranda. Later there is no alternative but it is possible to cross Miranda by the motorway paying half and continuing by N-I.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 11:59 AM   #10765
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I've moved this conversation to the Spanish thread. I feel I'm getting angry looks from people resting ;-)

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Old August 13th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #10766
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The M74 extension into Glasgow City Centre still hasn't appeared on Google Maps.

A new bypass in Figueira which is right next to the old road and sometimes on top, which is in turn next to the older road which was used by the EN109 until the 1980's appeared on Google Maps a couple of years before work began
There is a section on E07, which is already on Google Maps and works haven't begun yet!
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Old August 13th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #10767
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Old August 13th, 2011, 10:30 PM   #10768
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A driving pig pen turned over at the A12 offramp at Driebergen (near Utrecht, NL)
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Old August 13th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #10769
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^ Well, this is epic.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #10770
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Perfect location for a new McDonald's. Some pigs have all the luck in the world...
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Old August 14th, 2011, 01:25 AM   #10771
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Romanian and Hungarian police cars in front of Arad (RO) city hall:


Is that policewoman wearing high heel shoes? How is she going to chase down the bad guys?
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Old August 14th, 2011, 01:55 AM   #10772
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She'll take them off I guess, and they might only be for "ceremonial" purposes, i.e she wouldn't normally wear them
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Old August 14th, 2011, 04:22 AM   #10773
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A driving pig pen turned over at the A12 offramp at Driebergen (near Utrecht, NL)
that happened once near my street, but with cows. they were all over the road.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 08:53 AM   #10774
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A driving pig pen turned over at the A12 offramp at Driebergen (near Utrecht, NL)
I can't forget A2 motorway from Romania:

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Old August 14th, 2011, 03:22 PM   #10775
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Sheep in the road is normal in Ireland
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Sheep in the road is normal in Ireland
But not on a motorway I guess...
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No, but even on national roads sometimes
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Old August 15th, 2011, 12:52 AM   #10778
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At Spain too.. but only in some roads.

In fact, they are old rights of farmers. Weather is very different from north to south and since after Middle age there was a lot of tradition of animal migrations. Six months in the south while winter, six months in the north while summer. And most (or maybe all) of them are for sheeps.

They are old lanes where they have rights to use for sheeps migrations... and they are rights since several years old and never abolished.

As I said, there are not too many migrations lanes (called "ca˝adas") but should a road has been built over one of these lanes... the rights keep on, and in some important cities the lane crosses by city centre. The rigths are for some streets or avenues only (those coincident with the old lane).

Farmers try not to use these lanes if they cross cities or main roads. Mainly because it is much slower as well as they know they have most of times some paralel lanes. They have no special rights on those lanes (they are just country lanes) but they can use them as any other one.

But... you will see sometimes animals on cities or roads. Why?. The old law was very clear...
To keep the migration lanes rights they have to cross them at least once per year.
They try to cross them sometimes with a few animals only, sometimes in the night or weekend with less traffic... but if they want to keep the rights... animals once per year.

Sometimes they are required to ask a permission in advance in order to prepare police to organize traffic, but after having permissions... they will cross.

Here is one picture about sheeps in the Calle de Alcala at Madrid. It is the natural way from city centre to Zaragoza and Barcelona.







P.S. Pope Benedict XVI will be on this street this week!!
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Old August 17th, 2011, 12:11 PM   #10780
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I know that many of you appreciated Transfăgărăşan road from Romania, where one TopGear episode was recorded.


(from 6:15)

Now it's available on Google Street View
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