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Old September 4th, 2011, 03:19 PM   #11081
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Old September 4th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #11082
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you should see our gastarbeiters - in Germany they speak their native languages (Croatian or wherever they are from), and when they come here they speak German or at least something that should be German they think they are cool if they speak it here.
We also have some people acting like this

In the '90 we had a Romanian football player that played in Italy for few months. When he returned to Romania the press wanted an interview at the airport, but he said he forgot Romanian language and he can speak only in Italian
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Old September 4th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #11083
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you should see our gastarbeiters - in Germany they speak their native languages (Croatian or wherever they are from), and when they come here they speak German or at least something that should be German they think they are cool if they speak it here.
Strange, I have never met a gastić that spoke German here. They - or more likely their kids - speak Croatian with German accent and that's it.
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Old September 4th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #11084
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Seriously, wtf happened to Verso.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 12:09 AM   #11085
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Hope he didn't make what he promised in his last post
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Old September 5th, 2011, 12:27 AM   #11086
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Is anybody from Slovenia in touch with him? Does anybody have his contacts? I am starting to be worried.. :/
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Old September 5th, 2011, 01:19 AM   #11087
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not really. slovenian forum doesn't seem to be worried at all. he had couple of breaks already, hope he's coming back.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 02:25 AM   #11088
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I hope not no
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Old September 5th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #11089
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Old September 5th, 2011, 01:59 PM   #11090
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Especially since German should not be that hard for an English-speaker...
I don't think so. German has a very complex grammar much more similar to Latin than English, and words are very often completely different. Maybe German is easier for Dutch-speaking people. I wonder about speakers of Nordic languages.

Italian, Spanish and Portuguese are on the other hand more or less mutually intelligible.

French is less understandable than Spanish and Portuguese from Italian speakers (according to some Italian speaking friends of mine, as I speak French quite well), Romanian even less (but still more or less readable).

I wonder how is Italian for other romance languages speakers.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 02:17 PM   #11091
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French is less understandable than Spanish and Portuguese from Italian speakers.
Personally I find easier to read French than Portuguese, while in a direct conversation a Portuguese and me would generally better understand each other.

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I wonder too! My romanian friends say they find pretty easy to understand Italian.

Italian grammar is not so friendly, but at least the pronunciation is simple.
I remember an article I read on Time, many years ago. A group of British doctors was developing an experiment on children affected by speech difficulties, actually teaching them Italian, due to the way much easier pronunciation elements.
In fact, English can count up to 2500+ different phonemes, while the whole Italian language has... 33 of them
That's also a good reason for the terrible English pronunciation of many Italians.

My experience also says that Brits find usually hard to pronounce the strong "R" letter in the Italian way, while Scotsmen are fully able to do it, since their local dialect includes that sound.
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I understand your pain Verso. I'm fighting with a serious illness myself. Have a good recovery
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Old September 5th, 2011, 02:45 PM   #11093
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I said that his though was incorrect, of course.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 09:20 PM   #11095
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Question about NL car registration papers

I hope you guys can help me out. I'm coming to Europe on holiday and will be flying into Amsterdam and renting a car there. I'm going to be staying in some German cities that require an Ümweltplakette. I'm told the NL rental cars don't have these, so I will need to get one when I get to Germany. I also know that I will need the car registration form to get the sticker. I'm a little concerned about this because usually the rental cars here in the US don't have the registration forms in them, just a card saying the reg form is on file somewhere. I asked about this on another forum (TripAdvisor) and someone replied not to worry, it's mandatory to have the registration form (Kentekenbewijs Deel I) in the car at all times. Anyway, I hope you can confirm whether this info is true, that I will definitely get a copy of the registration with the car. If I don't have it and can't get the sticker, then I guess I'll just have to chance a fine and hope the parking wardens are not too zelaous!

Thanks for your help.
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Old September 5th, 2011, 09:35 PM   #11096
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I think too that the vehicle must have the registration with it, to be usable. Most car rental agencies use to leave you a non-legal copy of the documents, which should be enough to obtain the plakette.
Emitters usually need the documents just to retrieve the actual Euro-X pollution class, so the original papers are not needed.

Be sure to ask for the documents, at least a decent copy of them.

It's curious to see how in two different topics we are complaining about the Umweltplakette hassle... thanks, Germany!
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Old September 6th, 2011, 10:31 PM   #11097
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Old September 6th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #11098
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I hope you guys can help me out. I'm coming to Europe on holiday and will be flying into Amsterdam and renting a car there. I'm going to be staying in some German cities that require an Ümweltplakette. I'm told the NL rental cars don't have these, so I will need to get one when I get to Germany. I also know that I will need the car registration form to get the sticker. I'm a little concerned about this because usually the rental cars here in the US don't have the registration forms in them, just a card saying the reg form is on file somewhere. I asked about this on another forum (TripAdvisor) and someone replied not to worry, it's mandatory to have the registration form (Kentekenbewijs Deel I) in the car at all times. Anyway, I hope you can confirm whether this info is true, that I will definitely get a copy of the registration with the car. If I don't have it and can't get the sticker, then I guess I'll just have to chance a fine and hope the parking wardens are not too zelaous!

Thanks for your help.
In Europe, all rented cars carry original documents and European insurance form. You are likely to be restricted from driving into certain countries of Eastern Europe or, if you are renting a luxury car, Italy.

It is not allowed for rental companies to release cars with mere copies of registration forms, and I have never heard of such practices here in Europe. First time I rented a car in US I got very uneasy about this practice of not giving me the original title.
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Old September 7th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #11099
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In Europe, all rented cars carry original documents and European insurance form. You are likely to be restricted from driving into certain countries of Eastern Europe or, if you are renting a luxury car, Italy.

It is not allowed for rental companies to release cars with mere copies of registration forms, and I have never heard of such practices here in Europe. First time I rented a car in US I got very uneasy about this practice of not giving me the original title.
Wilhem275 and Suburbanist, thanks for the feedback. That's reassuring, I don't think I'll worry about it anymore.

I arrive at AMS Friday morning, I'm thinking of driving directly over to Germany (Duisburg/Essen) and getting the sticker taken care of. I'm guessing it would be harder or maybe not possible to get one on the weekend.
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