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Old October 27th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #11501
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Old October 27th, 2011, 08:22 PM   #11502
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Old October 27th, 2011, 09:12 PM   #11503
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Old October 27th, 2011, 09:16 PM   #11504
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Old October 28th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #11505
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That is one thing America is good at is making complex interchanges. Even after driving on them for years I still get turned around sometimes. It is so easy to get onto the wrong ramp and then forget about it. Sometimes it can take half an hour to get back on track.

And check out the 105x405 interchange in LA. The dotted lines are tunnels and the highest overpass is ten stories tall.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 02:17 AM   #11506
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But if you get lost then they aren't made that well?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 02:25 AM   #11507
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I drive through these interchanges every day going to and from work. They are not as complex as they look on the map.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 11:06 AM   #11508
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Airport interchanges are usually the most complex ones.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 03:49 PM   #11509
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Been through there many times....

Make sure you click on "hide the panel," so you see the whole thing.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #11510
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Airport interchanges are usually the most complex ones.
Part of what's going on there is that it was build in stages: US 1/9, US 22 and NJ 21 - and the airport itself - before World War II; the New Jersey Turnpike in the early 50s; I-78 later. Not to mention major improvements to the airport itself. If memory serves, until about 1970 the terminal was those buildings along the northern edge; then they built the current terminals and loop road.

I've noticed the same phenomenon in rail transit systems. The first one I used extensively was Washington's (when I was in college). At the stations where different lines meet, the transfer is normally a short walk up- or downstairs. Which I figured was normal until I got to Paris and London, where you can walk through long mazes of tunnels. I figure it's because the Washington system (even if it was built in stages) was all designed at once so the transfer stations were planned as such, while in other cities, when they build a new line they have to thread it through the existing infrastructure.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 09:10 PM   #11511
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Um, why doesn't this work, at least on this computer?

Anyhow, it's a snowfall, yes, snowfall forecast for the next 48 hours. 3 to 5 inches here.

Unless they update this article, it's the second map here: http://www.weather.com/outlook/weath...now_2011-10-26
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Old October 28th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #11512
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Old October 28th, 2011, 09:58 PM   #11513
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I just checked two of our local TV stations' sites and they're being less alarmist than the Weather Channel (which is what weather.com is): you'd have to go a little bit inland from here to get any accumulation.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #11514
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I think this is more rational than http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&sug...-8&sa=N&tab=wl
Motorway and national road cross the border at the same point. In direction I -> SLO is quite straight but in the opposite you have to make a 360° turn! Very absurd! It should be rebuilt.

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Airport interchanges are usually the most complex ones.
The one at Venice airport is very simple: A57dir motorway ends in SS14 with a traffic light! http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&sug...-8&sa=N&tab=wl
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Old October 29th, 2011, 01:52 AM   #11515
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I think this is more rational than http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&sug...-8&sa=N&tab=wl
Motorway and national road cross the border at the same point. In direction I -> SLO is quite straight but in the opposite you have to make a 360° turn! Very absurd! It should be rebuilt.
I wonder, if they will ever change that. How expensive can it be to make it like on the Slovenian side? The motorway should be more important than the old road.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 12:24 PM   #11516
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Old October 29th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #11517
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I wonder, if they will ever change that. How expensive can it be to make it like on the Slovenian side? The motorway should be more important than the old road.
I never heard about a plan to change it, nor by Anas, neither by Autovie Venete or region Friuli-Venezia Giulia. What about Dars?
IMHO is a very important road work to do, and probably not so expensive.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 02:31 PM   #11518
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The problem is, that on neither side motorway was planned in such way that it would be seamlessly connected after borders would be gone. So merging both motorways as they should be will involve heavy reconstruction on Italian side and also a lot of works on Slovenian side (including new overpass for regional road). It involves doing also new exit for logistical and transportation plateaus.

As there is no need to do that (traffic numbers don't justify that yet) this reconstruction will be probably postponed in far future.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 03:09 PM   #11519
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The problem is, that on neither side motorway was planned in such way that it would be seamlessly connected after borders would be gone. So merging both motorways as they should be will involve heavy reconstruction on Italian side and also a lot of works on Slovenian side (including new overpass for regional road). It involves doing also new exit for logistical and transportation plateaus.

As there is no need to do that (traffic numbers don't justify that yet) this reconstruction will be probably postponed in far future.
I think there's no point to leave the old border facilities still in place in Schengen era, expecially if they're an obstacle to traffic.
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Old October 29th, 2011, 03:26 PM   #11520
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I didn't want to write an off topic in the Vatican thread... but as well as it is really that some motorways crosses are bigger than that State... in Spain there is one municipality very near Valencia which extension is smaller than the Camp Nou stadium.

In one thread one forumer posted two photos to compare the dimensions of that small municipality and the stadium.
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