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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:06 PM   #12781
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Has anyone noticed that there're almost no people from China and Japan here? And such big nations.
Yep, too bad... Not many from Korea, India and Indonesia either.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:07 PM   #12782
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Has anyone noticed that there're almost no people from China and Japan here? And such big nations.
Well, is not easy for them learning English, since they don't use our alphabet. And Chineses may have legal limitations to access international websites.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #12783
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Has anyone noticed that there're almost no people from China and Japan here? And such big nations.
I would say most people who write here are those who master the english language.

Few japanese and chinese do that.

Those who have the best knowledge in english (besides the native speakers)
are the scandinavians and the dutch.

Try to ask someone for directions in english when visiting Moscow, Warsaw, Budapest or even Paris, Milan, Berlin.

Few know even a couple of words (or they don't bother)

I speak german, russian and scandinavian fluently. I also can get by a little in french and spanish. So I usually try those languages instead of english because I know the locals of most non english speaking countries feel hesitant
when someone ask.

I remember an episode on an italian train when an elderly lady sat on my seat.
So I tried to explain to her that I had a reservation for that seat.

It resulted in a rather confused mix of french and spanish (which italian is)
I actually knew the word "ordinato" so eventually she understood. That word was also very useful in other situations like at the beach. The two words I picked up from my italian trips are mainly "ordinato" & "vietato"
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #12784
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I remember an episode on an italian train when an elderly lady sat on my seat.
So I tried to explain to her that I had a reservation for that seat.

It resulted in a rather confused mix of french and spanish (which italian is)
I actually knew the word "ordinato" so eventually she understood. That word was also very useful in other situations like at the beach. The two words I picked up from my italian trips are mainly "ordinato" & "vietato"
You were lucky that the elderly person spoke Italian. Many of them went to school only for two or three years and speak only dialect, which sometimes are as far from Italian as are Spanish or French. The dialect my girlfriend speaks is closer to French than to Italian (and she's not from Aosta, but from Central Italy).
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #12785
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And Chineses may have legal limitations to access international websites.
No, they can access SSC, I've seen Chinese flag in one of those numerous flag counters in the Brazilian thread. I've also posted a flag counter in the Slovenian thread and I haven't had a single Chinese or Japanese visitor in 1.5 months. Today I got a visitor from Jersey though!
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Old March 9th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #12786
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It resulted in a rather confused mix of french and spanish (which italian is)
I actually knew the word "ordinato" so eventually she understood. That word was also very useful in other situations like at the beach. The two words I picked up from my italian trips are mainly "ordinato" & "vietato"
k'mon, in almost all european languages there is word with root "reserv-". it's really not a big deal
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Old March 10th, 2012, 07:18 AM   #12787
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No, they can access SSC, I've seen Chinese flag in one of those numerous flag counters in the Brazilian thread. I've also posted a flag counter in the Slovenian thread and I haven't had a single Chinese or Japanese visitor in 1.5 months. Today I got a visitor from Jersey though!
One thing I learned on this forum is that:

Usually the forumers from developing countries live in developed countries from where they promote their developing countries.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 10:37 AM   #12788
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k'mon, in almost all european languages there is word with root "reserv-". it's really not a big deal
"Reserv" in Italy means something a little different. It means more "secluded" than "reserved"
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Old March 10th, 2012, 11:04 AM   #12789
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k'mon, in almost all european languages there is word with root "reserv-". it's really not a big deal
In Hungarian we have no such word. As usual, our language is very different from any other :-)
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Old March 10th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #12790
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I regularly visit some public transport forums here in SSC as well. There are several Chinese forum members in threads 'Chinese Railways', 'Shanghai Metro', etc. But I haven't seen any in threads which are not about China.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #12791
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One thing I learned on this forum is that:

Usually the forumers from developing countries live in developed countries from where they promote their developing countries.
Yep, I once read they did a poll in the Albanian sub forum and 90% of the participants did not actually live in Albania. That was a couple of years ago, so the situation may have improved somewhat (time doesn't stand still in Albania).

Still, Skyscrapercity is probably the best place on the internet to learn about projects in other countries, if you ignore the country-promotion spam (which used to be a lot worse on Highways & Autobahns than today).
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Old March 10th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #12792
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Oh don't worry, it was FAR worse when we had radi around!
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Old March 10th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #12793
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And you're saying this on a thread started by radi himself... what a coincidence
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Old March 10th, 2012, 04:41 PM   #12794
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"Reserv" in Italy means something a little different. It means more "secluded" than "reserved"
you have riservato, almost the same
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In Hungarian we have no such word. As usual, our language is very different from any other :-)
that's why i said "almost each" having in mind ugro-finnish languages
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Old March 10th, 2012, 04:49 PM   #12795
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you have riservato, almost the same
Not exactly. I know that Italian-speaking Swiss use "riservato" meaning "reserved" (adapted from French "reservée), but in Italy we use almost exclusively "prenotato". "Riservato" means "apart from others": if your table at a restaurant is "riservato", it may mean that it is far from the others, in a separate part of the restaurant. A guy is "riservato" if he is shy, and doesn't want to share feelings and words with other people.
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Yep, I once read they did a poll in the Albanian sub forum and 90% of the participants did not actually live in Albania. That was a couple of years ago, so the situation may have improved somewhat (time doesn't stand still in Albania).
Very true, although I also have already 5 visitors from Albania itself.

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I regularly visit some public transport forums here in SSC as well. There are several Chinese forum members in threads 'Chinese Railways', 'Shanghai Metro', etc.
But do they actually live in China or somewhere else (US, Europe...)? I know China isn't rich, but it still has more Internet users than the US or any other country in the world.
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Not exactly. I know that Italian-speaking Swiss use "riservato" meaning "reserved" (adapted from French "reservée), but in Italy we use almost exclusively "prenotato". "Riservato" means "apart from others": if your table at a restaurant is "riservato", it may mean that it is far from the others, in a separate part of the restaurant. A guy is "riservato" if he is shy, and doesn't want to share feelings and words with other people.
ok, had no idea about this i always use "prenotare", but didn't know that "riservato" means more like "private"
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Old March 10th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #12798
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ok, had no idea about this i always use "prenotare", but didn't know that "riservato" means more like "private"
In Italian we say "Ho prenotato un tavolo." and not "Ho riservato un tavolo." to say "I booked a table." However I sometimes saw a piece of paper with "riservato" over booked restaurant tables.
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Old March 10th, 2012, 08:29 PM   #12799
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Only the owner of the table can say "ho riservato un tavolo" cause it belongs to him, and he can reserve for who books it. So you that you want a table you say "ho prenotato un tavolo al ristorante" whereas the owner of the restaurant (or the waiter too, cause he works for the restaurant) says "ho riservato un tavolo per il signor X". You can't say "ho riservato" for something that doesn't belong to you (well you can, but it's not properly correct...)
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And if you say "Ho prenotato un tavolo riservato" means that you reserved a table in a quiet spot
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