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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:47 PM   #13681
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There is also the case that right lane cars could make a right turn, that can speed up things sometimes. Especially if there is red light traffic.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 04:05 AM   #13682
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lots of snow today on Tauern autobahn.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 08:34 AM   #13683
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Studies have shown it doens't really matter which lane you pick in a regular traffic jam. If it's slow traffic, the right lane is sometimes faster because they're mostly trucks, which means fewer objects to accelerate and brake compared to the left lane. Not necessarily faster, but a more steady pace instead of the hyper stop-and-go traffic on the left lane. On the other hand, if there is a nearly stationary traffic jam (for instance because there is a lane reduction ahead), the left lane is usually faster because trucks can't merge as fast as cars.
I just pick the lane that gets me to where I want to go (I have the N2/M3 split to deal with on my way home, OK!), and then just stay in it.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 08:56 AM   #13684
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Old May 16th, 2012, 09:22 AM   #13685
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Studies have shown it doens't really matter which lane you pick in a regular traffic jam. If it's slow traffic, the right lane is sometimes faster because they're mostly trucks, which means fewer objects to accelerate and brake compared to the left lane. Not necessarily faster, but a more steady pace instead of the hyper stop-and-go traffic on the left lane. On the other hand, if there is a nearly stationary traffic jam (for instance because there is a lane reduction ahead), the left lane is usually faster because trucks can't merge as fast as cars.
It depends where you are. I`ve seen it too often in the UK, that people sit in traffic in lane 3, when lane 1 and 2 are moving at an almost normal pace. And lane 3 will never be able to catch up. I did my own study on these things.

In Germany it doesn´t make much difference, this is true.

Also, at the Dartford toll crossing, I normally pick the longest queue and sit behind freight, going through these tolls. People are stupid and think that a lane of 20 cars in line will go through faster then a longer queue of 8 lorries.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 12:11 PM   #13686
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In Hungary drivers are so polite that in a lane reduction case the lane which will be closed is always much faster than the one wich is not closed.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 12:46 PM   #13687
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At the moment I'm trying to study how queues perform at a multi-lane roundabout. I don't have any definitive results since there are too many variables, but usually the left lane is less used.

But you have to take extra care, since most of the morons want to enter from right lane, then cut to the center of the roundabout, then exiting on the right lane again... lane discipline at its worst
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Old May 16th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #13688
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But you have to take extra care, since most of the morons want to enter from right lane, then cut to the center of the roundabout, then exiting on the right lane again... lane discipline at its worst
What do you mean? Isn't this how it's supposed to drive on a multilane roundabout? If it isn't, then the innermost lane would never be used...
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Old May 16th, 2012, 01:05 PM   #13689
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Hell no! You have to follow the lanes...
You may cut only if no one else is around, but doing that with others on the parallel lanes is something brutal and, in fact, screws up the concept of multiple lanes



That's a typical place where I get cut exiting the roundabout...
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Old May 16th, 2012, 01:10 PM   #13690
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That's why you need turbo roundabouts. They are much more efficiently used.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 01:13 PM   #13691
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Hell no! You have to follow the lanes...
You may cut only if no one else is around, but doing that with others on the parallel lanes is something brutal and, in fact, screws up the concept of multiple lanes



That's a typical place where I get cut exiting the roundabout...
Ah ok, I get it now. Problem is that there are many two-lane roundabouts that end up in one-lane streets...
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Old May 16th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #13692
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Ah ok, I get it now. Problem is that there are many two-lane roundabouts that end up in one-lane streets...
There is an Italian regulation that forbid roundabouts with more than one exit lane and this is a limitation for building roundabouts on high capacity roads.
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Makes sense. Italian roundabouts are scary enough as it is.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 02:16 PM   #13694
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There is an Italian regulation that forbid roundabouts with more than one exit lane and this is a limitation for building roundabouts on high capacity roads.
Are you sure? I didn't mean that all Italian roundabouts have only 1 exit lane. Here in Brescia there's plenty of roundabouts with 2 exit lanes.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 02:27 PM   #13695
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Hell no! You have to follow the lanes...
You may cut only if no one else is around, but doing that with others on the parallel lanes is something brutal and, in fact, screws up the concept of multiple lanes



That's a typical place where I get cut exiting the roundabout...
This happens a lot where I live. The morons who do this even have the audacity to question why you're blaring the horn at them too.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 03:02 PM   #13696
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Are you sure? I didn't mean that all Italian roundabouts have only 1 exit lane. Here in Brescia there's plenty of roundabouts with 2 exit lanes.
I saw one in Mestre with 2 exit lanes. But last year they opened a new roundabout on the Latisana - Lignano road. The road is 2x2 for its entire lenght but the new roundabout has only an exit lane and it was justufied because more exit lanes aren't allowed.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 04:16 PM   #13697
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at driving school I was taught always go to inner lane when you enter if you dont leave at the first exit
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Old May 16th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #13698
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