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Old July 8th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #14761
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2nd highest road in Europe after Col de la Bonette, right?
BTW, what kind of plate is it?
I don't know which plate is it...
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Old July 8th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #14762
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I don't know which plate is it...
Surely Satyricon and Recycle do.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #14763
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That's criminal.
At the conceptual level, I do not see any difference to the Italian fines of up to 10000 euros for buying a fake Rolex.

Any country is entitled to create their own tax system. At the EU level, there is some harmonization, like the EU-wide ban from using heating oil instead of diesel oil. The preventive measures are up to each country to decide. The current system has been in place since 1992 and the EU has not criticized it. Thus calling it criminal is nonsense.

That sort of a threat is rather a powerful way to prevent the tax system from leaking. The value of non-leakage is well visible especially nowadays when there is a trend to save the counties in the south European corruption zone by using the money collected from taxpayers of the central and north Europe.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #14764
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At the conceptual level, I do not see any difference to the Italian fines of up to 10000 euros for buying a fake Rolex.

Any country is entitled to create their own tax system. At the EU level, there is some harmonization, like the EU-wide ban from using heating oil instead of diesel oil. The preventive measures are up to each country to decide. The current system has been in place since 1992 and the EU has not criticized it. Thus calling it criminal is nonsense.

That sort of a threat is rather a powerful way to prevent the tax system from leaking. The value of non-leakage is well visible especially nowadays when there is a trend to save the counties in the south European corruption zone by using the money collected from taxpayers of the central and north Europe.
Allowing foreign tourists driving their LPG vehicles for nothing or for a small fee (let's say 5 EUR/day) wouldn't made Finnish tax system leaking since most of a country's tax income come from residents and not tourists. It would be more respectful towards EU integration and would increase LPG car ownership in other nordic countries (I would never buy a car that couldn't be driven for example in Austria).
Fines should be proportioned to the economical or social damage that the violator made to the society and shouldn't just an unhetical mean for making easy money.
About heating oil, apart the fact that it damages engines because it isn't pure, do we really need an EU ban for it? Why not letting single members to legiferate about this small things?
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Old July 8th, 2012, 10:53 PM   #14765
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Old July 9th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #14766
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That is not Russia (see number plates).
Might be Caucasis or Cental Asia though. This kind of behavior is not typical for Russians either.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 01:29 AM   #14767
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In Italy motorcycles below 150cc aren't allowed on motorways and blue-signs expressways.
It suprises me. V-max and acceleration of 125 and 150 cc motos is almost the same though. Isn't it for banish from motorways people under 18 (because you can drive a 125 cc with A1 driving license, possible to get from 16 years old)?

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here you are
btw i rather think it is between tunnel San Rocco (intersection A24/A25) and L'Aquila

It may be a Vespa PX150 or PX200 of some (old) sort.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 01:52 AM   #14768
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One of the major complaints about downsides of automatic gearbox cars were that they had just 3 or 4 gears and made driving uncomfortable.

However, more and more we see automatic cars with 6 or even 7 (Volkswagen is jumping into it) gears and also more easy-to-operate semi-automatic gear mode (when you just pull the stick up or down to change shifts instead of going through the 1-2-3-4-(N)-D sequence.

This should take care of the former concerns. I think cars in Europe should have more automatic options for similar prices, as it is much easier on the body coordination to drive them. Maybe they could even conceive some stick embedded in the wheel so that you click one arrow to change up, other arrow to change down (like some cars already have a 3rd wheel-base stick for radio, navigation control, cruise control or what else.

What do you think of it?
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Old July 9th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #14769
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It suprises me. V-max and acceleration of 125 and 150 cc motos is almost the same though. Isn't it for banish from motorways people under 18 (because you can drive a 125 cc with A1 driving license, possible to get from 16 years old)?
Probably. There are too much 125cc motos around that would flow the motorways and slow traffic.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 11:30 AM   #14770
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(because you can drive a 125 cc with A1 driving license, possible to get from 16 years old)
I've took my A1 driving license when I was 16
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Old July 9th, 2012, 11:41 AM   #14771
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Guys I need your help now I was planning to cycle to Istria. I am thinking to take train from Vienna to Ljubljana (costs 30€, very cheap for Austrian standarts) and then cycle to Croatia on road 10 through Logatec, Postojna, Divača, Loka - 208, Croatian border - Buzet. How high is AADT on these roads?

Is this safe or I should rather use some other roads (the problem is they run through quite hilly part of Slovenia)? I mean it is the main 1st class road between the coast and Ljubljana, but there is A1 right next to it so I was hoping this road is wide and empty.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 12:42 PM   #14772
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How about you cycle in Holland instead? Nationwide cycle path network with traffic lights, proper lane markings and safety interests registered in the Highway Code, makes Holland the best country to cycle in, with the exception of Amsterdam where cycle-anarchy rules...

And of course Holland is as flat as a tat.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 01:30 PM   #14773
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You forgot to mention great weather all year round and beautifle landscape.

Well firstly I wanted to cycle from Slovakia all the way down to Istria but as half of the route is pretty much just flat puszta I think I d be better to get there by train and then explore Istria and spend more days by the sea.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 01:32 PM   #14774
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Forget the Netherlands then. We haven't had a single ADS day so far (Above Average, Dry & Sunny) while some summers score over 50 ADS days. It's currently 17 C and rainy and it will stay that way for the next 2 weeks or so.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 01:44 PM   #14775
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In countries with ocenic climate you sometimes get better weather in Spring than in the Summer.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 01:57 PM   #14776
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I think he's not looking for urban cycling but for some nature.
where did you pick those road numbers? road Ljubljana - Divaca is 409. from Ljubljana to Vrhnika aadt is about 20.000 - to 10.000, then towards Postojna it is lower than 10.000.

Ljubljana, Vrhnika is 300m above sea
Logatec 500m
Postojna 600m
then you go generally down
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Old July 9th, 2012, 02:02 PM   #14777
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Today I went to a mechanic and decided to convert my car to LPG. I have an appointment for Wednesday and the total cost is 2400 lei (=530 € ... btw: how much does it cost in your country?). Hopefully everything will be fine. The mechanic is authorised (official) and has installed about LPG on about 8000 cars in the last years.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 03:37 PM   #14778
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In Greece it costs about 1000-1500 euro depends on the car cc displacement
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Old July 9th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #14779
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I think he's not looking for urban cycling but for some nature.
where did you pick those road numbers? road Ljubljana - Divaca is 409. from Ljubljana to Vrhnika aadt is about 20.000 - to 10.000, then towards Postojna it is lower than 10.000.

Ljubljana, Vrhnika is 300m above sea
Logatec 500m
Postojna 600m
then you go generally down
Holland is not urban, and there are some wonderful countrysides all over the nation. I miss some of my summers on the Frisian lakes, but I generally don't miss the weather in Holland. Here in Mayrhofen we have been huffin and puffin for weeks now, temperature never went below 20, and has reached levels of 40. We usually have good weather here, with 25+ temperatures as early as March sometimes.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 04:02 PM   #14780
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I tried putting google streetview little man randomly in Netherlands (btw why do you say Holland?), and 4 times of 5 I got urban area. And I tried putting it in the 'empty' areas between cities.
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