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Old July 10th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #14841
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Then you demolish old houses and build new apartment blocks. Is this that hard?
Create commie blocks
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Old July 10th, 2012, 11:59 AM   #14842
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I dont know, it is also question of money. If you are able to pay market prices then moving is not that hard.
There doesn't appear to be much call for a private letting market. Why is that?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #14843
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:24 PM   #14844
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:35 PM   #14845
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Looks horrible. I'm so glad I live in the mountains...
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #14846
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Something like that, yep. Although it could look still more modern, it looks pretty dated.

About commie blocks - maybe not the prettiest ones (although UK, Sweden, France etc apartment blocks from 60-ies and 70-ies don't look much better) but at least here building quality of blocks from 70-ies is much better than from 2000-ies.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:47 PM   #14847
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Bijlmermeer, Amsterdam. Not commie, but still blocks
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:57 PM   #14848
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Old July 10th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #14849
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Used to be on of the most deprived areas in the Netherlands, filled with crime and drugs. But since they have done a New York style springclean, it is now fairly safe. What I like about this area, is the diversity of people that live there, mostly from Suriname and the Dutch Caribbean. These annual Caribbean festivals does help to hide a bit of the greyness away, and the area around these tower blocks is fairly green.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:16 PM   #14850
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Not enough to meet everyone's needs. Also have to protect farmland and wildlife, and some rural areas attracts tourists, that needs to stay in tact. Holland is not a city state just yet, and it has to stay that way
I put people over "farmland and wildlife". If people have to suffer because of some herons and frogs, it's not worth it.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #14851
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For me Holland is quicker to type then the Netherlands, as I am not on my computer, but using the Android app right now on my phone.
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Bijlmermeer, Amsterdam. Not commie, but still blocks
The present day Sat View is pretty different (left side of the picture). Were some of those apartments demolished?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:44 PM   #14852
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Of course.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #14853
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I put people over "farmland and wildlife". If people have to suffer because of some herons and frogs, it's not worth it.
Nobody has to suffer in Holland, and nobody has to be homeless. People are well looked after, better then in Italy.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #14854
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Nobody has to suffer in Holland, and nobody has to be homeless. People are well looked after, better then in Italy.
Waiting 4 years for a house for rent limits people freedom of movement (i.e. suffer), and is plain stupid, fullstop.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:57 PM   #14855
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Waiting 4 years for a house for rent limits people freedom of movement (i.e. suffer), and is plain stupid, fullstop.
On the other hand, long-distance commute in Netherlands is far easier than in Lombardia... (I'm not talking about wealthy extreme commuters taking high-speed trains every train between Bologna and Milano as I recently read on a nice news article).
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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:04 PM   #14856
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On the other hand, long-distance commute in Netherlands is far easier than in Lombardia...
And wages are higher in the Netherlands... I calculated that if I commute every day BS-TO, I'll spend 1.5x my salary...
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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #14857
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It's not as easy as that in Holland. It is a small country, with a lot of people all cramped together. There is simply not enough room.
Weren't you just telling us yesterday about its wide open spaces?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:38 PM   #14858
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Google on Bijlmermeer. Also Rotterdam is called the Manhattan of Holland. And I don't think there is any interest in making the entire country look like Poland, with these depressing grey communist buildings...
Ironically, it occurred to me yesterday that a four-year waiting list for an apartment was rather...Soviet. (At least don't tell me that these waiting lists are maintained by some government agency.)
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #14859
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Weren't you just telling us yesterday about its wide open spaces?
Yes. I would like to keep it this way.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 06:41 PM   #14860
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Ironically, it occurred to me yesterday that a four-year waiting list for an apartment was rather...Soviet. (At least don't tell me that these waiting lists are maintained by some government agency.)
It is not like that exactly.

There are two rental markets in Netherlands: one is the "free market", other is the "rent-controlled market".

Free market rents are those above € 682 (roughly)/month. They operate like any normal lease, usually a 2-month deposit is required and they can be raised or the renter evicted under certain rules.

Rents below that threshold, on the contrary, are regulated. They can only increase in par with an official index of inflation or more if the owner makes objective improvements.

2/3 of all rental units in Netherlands are rental-controlled. Among those, a substantial part are also units owned by housing corporations, which are not-for-profit corporations that got in the past large sums of money - and land - from the government to build social housing, in exchange for limiting the rents they charge and providing some equitable access to housing. Among these rules, renters cannot be evicted easily and when demand for housing outstrips supply, some sort of waiting list must be used in a non-discriminatory basis (the housing corporation can't pick renters that it likes or not, though it can assess ability to pay).

Rent controlled units are also eligible for a partial subsidy up to € 270/month depending on your income. It is seen as a "fair compensation" for renters (since people on mortgages get to deduct the interest paid from their taxable income).
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