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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:10 PM   #15301
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Well, it's still funny. As for high number of car thefts in Italy, I remember when I was in Turin by car. I was looking for a parking spot in the city-centre. It was full of some nothing-to-do Africans, who were looking at me and my car in the way "we'll steal your car". I parked in a garage then.
They usually don't steal cars. They ask for some coins otherwise they vandalize and scratch your car.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:13 PM   #15302
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Well, it's still funny. As for high number of car thefts in Italy, I remember when I was in Turin by car. I was looking for a parking spot in the city-centre. It was full of some nothing-to-do Africans, who were looking at me and my car in the way "we'll steal your car". I parked in a garage then.
Usually in Turin at traffic lights I get bother by old women with a coke cup in their hands.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:14 PM   #15303
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I just spent a few minutes looking at US statistics, out of curiosity.

Motor-vehicle-theft rate for the country as a whole was 238-point-something per 100,000 people in 2010 (Detailed 2011 numbers aren't out yet). Average value per car was about $6,000, so we're not talking luxury vehicles: I've heard they go more for vehicles that they'll be able to break up for sellable parts.

If anyone wants to play any more with that, start here: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...me/mvtheftmain
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #15304
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Usually in Turin at traffic lights I get bother by old women with a coke cup in their hands.
They are gipsies. Same scene in almost every city here. But much more bothering are window washers, even if you say no they start to "clean" the windshield...everytime is a fight
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A Chinese woman who just got her driving licence in Italy was stopped by police in Romano, near Bergamo, while driving a city-car in a roundabout, in the wrong direction. Policemen were astounded when 9 people - 7 adults and 2 children - came out of the small car. Driving in the wrong side of the road, this incredible overload and - of course - nobody using seatbelts costed the young Chinese lady 64 licence points and 1800 euro.

http://bergamo.corriere.it/bergamo/n...57279068.shtml
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Some years ago, during a my reletives' wedding ceremony, some thieves broke the windshields of two cars parked outside the church and stole all money that would have been gifted to the newlyweds.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:28 PM   #15307
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They are gipsies. Same scene in almost every city here. But much more bothering are window washers, even if you say no they start to "clean" the windshield...everytime is a fight
I often see girls (aparently gypsy or however eastern europeans) asking for money on trains "because they have no money for food". They usually are dressed normally (not with old dirty clothers like would dress a desperate person) sometimes with their boobs well in evidence to get more tips by male passengers . And if they're on the train they have at least money for the ticket (controls are frequent on that line). Maybe they need those money for their booze or fix. I understand poor elderly or disabled people, but if you're young and healty look for a job!
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #15308
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They are gipsies. Same scene in almost every city here. But much more bothering are window washers, even if you say no they start to "clean" the windshield...everytime is a fight
Keep the doors locked, window's shut and spray the windscreen yourself. They should get the message... And get wet.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #15309
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I just spent a few minutes looking at US statistics, out of curiosity.

Motor-vehicle-theft rate for the country as a whole was 238-point-something per 100,000 people in 2010 (Detailed 2011 numbers aren't out yet). Average value per car was about $6,000, so we're not talking luxury vehicles: I've heard they go more for vehicles that they'll be able to break up for sellable parts.

If anyone wants to play any more with that, start here: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...me/mvtheftmain
Expensive cars are often LoJacked, while cheaper cars are also stolen because they can be used for joyriding and for criminal activities where they dump the car after the job. Expensive cars attract more attention.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:43 PM   #15310
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Keep the doors locked, window's shut and spray the windscreen yourself. They should get the message... And get wet.
I usually keep a bit distance from the ahead car, and when they come close I push the gas move forward. Spray myself the windscreen driving often in Milan means to refill the water bowl almost every week. . Previous major was against gypsy at traffic lights, but the actual major of milan is gypsy-friendly
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #15311
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I haven't checked this thread for 1 hour and now it looks like an internet chat room

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They usually don't steal cars. They ask for some coins otherwise they vandalize and scratch your car.
Yeah... this also happens in Bucharest. You find an empty parking spot, you park there, and suddenly there's a guy that looks like you couldn't trust and he asks you for money to "guard" your car... so nobody damages it. If you give him money it's ok, if not... he will do some damage to your car after you leave. Here's one "parcangiu" (RO) captured by me on camera in Bucharest last year:

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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:48 PM   #15312
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I often see girls (aparently gypsy or however eastern europeans) asking for money on trains "because they have no money for food". They usually are dressed normally (not with old dirty clothers like would dress a desperate person) sometimes with their boobs well in evidence to get more tips by male passengers . And if they're on the train they have at least money for the ticket (controls are frequent on that line). Maybe they need those money for their booze or fix. I understand poor elderly or disabled people, but if you're young and healty look for a job!
In Milan you can find such cases on the metro. Often with husband and children, the man play the violin and girl and children go to ask money. A wagon after other every stop
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I usually keep a bit distance from the ahead car, and when they come close I push the gas move forward. Spray myself the windscreen driving often in Milan means to refill the water bowl almost every week. . Previous major was against gypsy at traffic lights, but the actual major of milan is gypsy-friendly
I've heard that some glass cleaner throw dirty water or mud on your windshield so you're forced to have it cleaned (and thus pay them).
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I've heard that some glass cleaner throw dirty water or mud on your windshield so you're forced to have it cleaned (and thus pay them).
Or exit the car and punch him in the face.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #15315
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Old August 8th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #15316
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Average value per car was about $6,000, so we're not talking luxury vehicles: I've heard they go more for vehicles that they'll be able to break up for sellable parts.
Yes, same here.
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In Milan you can find such cases on the metro. Often with husband and children, the man play the violin and girl and children go to ask money. A wagon after other every stop
I'd rather give 100€ to a serious and reliable charity organization that take care of poor and homeless instead of giving 1€ to those beggars. Most of the times either they don't get all the money they get because they're exploited by crime syndacates or they aren't really so desperate but they beg using their non-caucasian appearances or their non-Italian accent as a "pass" to look like poor and thus deserve money.
Especially in this period there're many Italian suffering from poverty but they almost never beg except few clochard and drug addicts.
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I've heard that some glass cleaner throw dirty water or mud on your windshield so you're forced to have it cleaned (and thus pay them).
Possible, but these are the worse cases cause they want you to stop or going out of the car... and this cause is possible there's partner in crime hidden somewhere ready to rob you.
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Or exit the car and punch him in the face.
If one is alone, or even worse a woman, (s)he wouldn't probably dare to do it.
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Expensive cars are often LoJacked, while cheaper cars are also stolen because they can be used for joyriding and for criminal activities where they dump the car after the job. Expensive cars attract more attention.
I've never had any trouble (knock on wood) in four years using a 2002 Mitsubishi Lancer with 140,000 miles on it, most of the time parked in central Philadelphia.

If I have to park out of sight of my apartment I check on it every 24 hours, but that's less for making sure it hasn't been stolen or vandalized than because the city occasionally establishes temporary no-parking zones (because someone's working on water lines or whatever) so a spot that was legal when you parked can become illegal. I've gotten a couple of tickets for those situations, but they're supposed to put up the signs 24 hours before the restriction goes into effect....
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