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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #15321
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I'd rather give 100€ to a serious and reliable charity organization that take care of poor and homeless instead of giving 1€ to those beggars. Most of the times either they don't get all the money they get because they're exploited by crime syndacates or they aren't really so desperate but they beg using their non-caucasian appearances or their non-Italian accent as a "pass" to look like poor and thus deserve money.
Especially in this period there're many Italian suffering from poverty but they almost never beg except few clochard and drug addicts.
Is well-known where finish all money those gypsy get
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #15322
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If I have to park out of sight of my apartment I check on it every 24 hours, but that's less for making sure it hasn't been stolen or vandalized than because the city occasionally establishes temporary no-parking zones (because someone's working on water lines or whatever) so a spot that was legal when you parked can become illegal. I've gotten a couple of tickets for those situations, but they're supposed to put up the signs 24 hours before the restriction goes into effect....
What if you go on vacantion several days without your car?
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:05 PM   #15323
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Good question. I haven't done that, but I might put it in a commercial garage to be safe. (Or if I was feeling cheap, leave it at my mother's.)
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:05 PM   #15324
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Fiat Panda in Italy...
Common cheap cars are easier to steal (because they have less security technology) and to conceal (there're many of them in circulation).
In the 80s and 90s there was an unfamous criminal gang in Bologna called Uno Bianca gang. They did many robberies and homicidies and they used mostly stolen Fiat Uno, very common cars in Italy in those years.
Cheap small cars can be illegally modified in order to reach higher speed and be efficient against police chasings.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:11 PM   #15325
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Is well-known where finish all money those gypsy get
[youtube]EatuajQgDZc[/ youtube]
And in the roofs of this extremely "beautiful" houses in Hunedoara, Romania (pics shot by me last week):

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Architecture wall of shame by bogdymol, on Flickr

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Architecture wall of shame by bogdymol, on Flickr
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #15326
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Ceausescu's mountain house? :-)

EDIT: is that two British plates in the first pic?
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:17 PM   #15327
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I'm ideologically against racism and in favour of multiculturalism.
But however I think that gypsies, or at least a big part of them, have a lifestyle that is absolutely unaccaptable for a civilized country and are unable to adapt to a normal life. Sad fact but unfortunately true.

I found this emblematic article that probably doesn't need any comment. And there is plenty of such cases across Europe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...taxpayers.html

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Ceausescu's mountain house? :-)

EDIT: is that two British plates in the first pic?
Yes, plates are British but probably owners aren't.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #15328
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WTF, seems a temple of any strange sect that wants your money in change of your soul salvation.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:19 PM   #15329
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Ceausescu's mountain house? :-)
Nope... just gypsy houses. They like to build their houses as big as possible and with many bling-bling things to attract atention. For me they look like and if I would be the mayor I wouldn't allow them to do this...

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EDIT: is that two British plates in the first pic?
Yes, but 90% of the British & Irish licensed cars that are in Romania are driven by gypsyes (often without insurance).
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:23 PM   #15330
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Yes, but 90% of the British & Irish licensed cars that are in Romania are driven by gypsyes (often without insurance).
I told you, they come to Western-Europe to steal stuff an then head back home
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #15331
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Nope... just gypsy houses. They like to build their houses as big as possible and with many bling-bling things to attract atention. For me they look like and if I would be the mayor I wouldn't allow them to do this...
If they respect building zoning and safety laws and are legal residents in that territory, nobody can forbid them to build such houses.
But, under the point of taxation, how they justify a such high income to afford such expensive homes? If they're proper gypsies they probably don't have a full-time regular job.
Probably those buildings accomodate other people than their official legal residents.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #15332
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I'm ideologically against racism and in favour of multiculturalism.
But however I think that gypsies, or at least a big part of them, have a lifestyle that is absolutely unaccaptable for a civilized country and are unable to adapt to a normal life. Sad fact but unfortunately true.

I found this emblematic article that probably doesn't need any comment. And there is plenty of such cases across Europe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...taxpayers.html
and in Italy judges give back the confiscated Ferraris, house and bank accounts to a destitute gypsy without fix work...
http://www.gazzettino.it/articolo.ph...34&sez=NORDEST
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:38 PM   #15333
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and in Italy judges give back the confiscated Ferraris, house and bank accounts to a destitute gypsy without fix work...
http://www.gazzettino.it/articolo.ph...34&sez=NORDEST
The problem of our justice is that investigation activities are too weak when homicides or serious violences aren't involved and criminals are often let free because of lack of proofs.
I think that nobody should be allowed to own very expensive things or propertries if he cannot tell how he legally got the money for them and pays adequate taxes.
And we Italians are champions in looking poor only to the tax office, we shouldn't just blame immigrants for that.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #15334
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If they respect building zoning and safety laws and are legal residents in that territory, nobody can forbid them to build such houses.
Look at the houses in the Alps. They all look really nice and almost identical. I'm not saying that we should build identical houses, but they should look somehow similar... and this gypsy castles aren't fitting well in the area at all.

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But, under the point of taxation, how they justify a such high income to afford such expensive homes? If they're proper gypsies they probably don't have a full-time regular job.
Usually nobody checks how can they afford luxury houses and expensive care even though they don't work.

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Probably those buildings accomodate other people than their official legal residents.
Gypsy people usually like to live together with their entire family, so there might be 3 generations living under the same roof.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #15335
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and in Italy judges give back the confiscated Ferraris, house and bank accounts to a destitute gypsy without fix work...
http://www.gazzettino.it/articolo.ph...34&sez=NORDEST
You mean "permanent job"...
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Old August 8th, 2012, 06:54 PM   #15336
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But still... when I was driving in Romania, and passing through one of these gypsy villages, I saw the most beautiful gypsy girl on the back of a horse and carriage, with a long dress, and long black hair. I still see her in front of me.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #15337
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Look at the houses in the Alps. They all look really nice and almost identical. I'm not saying that we should build identical houses, but they should look somehow similar... and this gypsy castles aren't fitting well in the area at all.
They fit well in the gypsy area.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 11:14 PM   #15338
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I don't know what in Romania, but in Poland those "residences" are usually very shitty, built from trashy materials.

I have a pleasure to live outside their "zone of influence" , there's just small amount of them in the most criminal and poor district of my neighboring city - Bytom - Bobrek. Here they just beg on streets, using their children.

Really, everybody, but not them...

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Old August 8th, 2012, 11:27 PM   #15339
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I haven't checked this thread for 1 hour and now it looks like an internet chat room

Yeah... this also happens in Bucharest. You find an empty parking spot, you park there, and suddenly there's a guy that looks like you couldn't trust and he asks you for money to "guard" your car... so nobody damages it. If you give him money it's ok, if not... he will do some damage to your car after you leave. Here's one "parcangiu" (RO) captured by me on camera in Bucharest last year:

lol, exactly the same thing in Brazil..

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Old August 9th, 2012, 01:19 AM   #15340
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lol, exactly the same thing in Brazil..
And in Neaples and Palermo too.
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