daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old November 20th, 2012, 06:41 PM   #17121
Attus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Rheinbach
Posts: 2,766
Likes (Received): 1039

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
I also worked on a pre-MS DOS laptop from the early 1980s.
Hm, I thought you were younger :-)
I myself frequently used typewriters until mide 90's. I remember when my school recieved computers for the first time, typewriter-students broke PC keyboards within a week because of hitting them so strong as they used to hit classic mechanical typewriters :-)
Attus no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old November 20th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #17122
Attus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Rheinbach
Posts: 2,766
Likes (Received): 1039


Source: attus.hu; Click for large picture

I have used it for 4.5 years, drove 70,000 kms (~ 44,000 miles), mostly by myself, for long trips sometimes my friends drove it. Filled approx. 4,500 liter (~ 1,200 gallons) fuel.
Attus no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #17123
x-type
con los terroristas
 
x-type's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bjelovar [HR]
Posts: 13,466
Likes (Received): 3437

i also still have one mechanical writing machine somewhere at the garret. my mother was a typist and it wasfrom her school days.
i remember when she worked in the Post in 80es she had semi-mechanical typing machine. you didn't have to hit it strong, but the print was made mechanicaly. Olympia was the brand of machine who knows what they produce nowadays!
__________________
Svaki dan sanjam autobahn...
x-type no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 20th, 2012, 10:23 PM   #17124
Chilio
Небостъргачевград
 
Chilio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sofia
Posts: 12,788
Likes (Received): 9150

We have two typewriting machines at my parents' home too, I have written numerous pages of essays, letters and other stuff on them. One of the machines is a real antiquity - Adler from the 30ies.
Actually at some remote villages and small towns in Bulgaria, police officers still use typewriters instead of computers. But at such places usually most of the paperwork is done by hand.
Chilio no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 01:35 AM   #17125
cinxxx
I ♥ Timişoara
 
cinxxx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: München
Posts: 22,236
Likes (Received): 18299





cinxxx no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 02:48 PM   #17126
Surel
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,702
Likes (Received): 2154

Interesting. It took only 16 days for a train to deliver 50 containers from China into Czech republic. Thats half the time of the sea shipping.
Surel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 02:56 PM   #17127
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,594
Likes (Received): 19388

At a much higher cost per ton probably.... I doubt whether the speed advantage of rail freight for intercontinental traffic can weigh against the large volume advantages of shipping.

But I presume there is a market for some commodities to be shipped by train along such distances, where time is money.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 03:11 PM   #17128
mappero
Co sie kryje za zakrętem?
 
mappero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: WRO origin, Benelux present
Posts: 2,808
Likes (Received): 516

Quote:
Originally Posted by Surel View Post
Interesting. It took only 16 days for a train to deliver 50 containers from China into Czech republic. Thats half the time of the sea shipping.
I've read about 18 days from China to Germany using Polish PKP Cargo company and their train.
__________________
Observation & analysing is the key for the smart solutions - this is what I do!

Błędy na mapach w nawigacjach GPS i internecie

Been in: A, B, BIH, BR, C, CH, CZ, D, DK, E, F, FL, GB, GE, GBR, H, HR, I, L, LT, MC, MEX, MNE, N, NL, P, PL, RO, RD, RSM, S, SK, SLO, SRB, TR, UA, USA, V
Driven in: A, B, BIH, BR, CH, CZ, D, DK, E, F, FL, GB, GBR, H, HR, I, L, MC, MNE, N, NL, P, PL, RO, S, SLO, SK, SRB, TR, USA
mappero no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 03:26 PM   #17129
Rebasepoiss
Registered User
 
Rebasepoiss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tallinn
Posts: 5,818
Likes (Received): 1819

Quote:
Originally Posted by piotr71 View Post
I owned one, too,actually still have it. It has been inherited from my father and I used to write poetry on it, which I sent to some newspapers Though, my machine had a different layout to that one on the picture. It was so called QWERTZ, where 'Y' and 'Z' were switched to match Polish language requirements. We do not use 'Y' too often, so 'Z' appeared in more suitable location (I think).
Talking about QWERTY, it's actually a very poor design for Estonian language since Q, W, Z, Y, X and C aren't used at all, yet we have Ö, Ä, Ü and Ġ which all have to be reached by your right hand pinkie, quite uncomfortable indeed.
Estonian keyboard layout:

Last edited by Rebasepoiss; November 21st, 2012 at 03:37 PM.
Rebasepoiss no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 03:32 PM   #17130
g.spinoza
Lord Kelvin
 
g.spinoza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Torino
Posts: 9,490
Likes (Received): 2102

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebasepoiss View Post
Talking about QWERTY, it's actually a very poor design for Estonian language
It is a poor design tout court. QWERTY was adopted to slow the typing process, because in early typewriters the hammers got stuck together when the typist was too fast.
g.spinoza está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 03:57 PM   #17131
mappero
Co sie kryje za zakrętem?
 
mappero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: WRO origin, Benelux present
Posts: 2,808
Likes (Received): 516

O common! I am so glad we have QWERTY keyboard in Poland. When I moved and start to work in NL then for US company, meanwhile in UK for some projects I was so happy Poland decided to take QWERTY back in 90' when first computers appear in PL.
Polish alphabet has more letters then Estonian... I guess. And there is no problem in Polish to type all of ours special characters And it's so easy to get used to QWERTY though...
Pity not other countries (Latin-1 and Latin-2) has the same keyboard...
One interesting thing! Do you know that the QWERTY laptops are more expensive than AZERTY in Belgium ?
__________________
Observation & analysing is the key for the smart solutions - this is what I do!

Błędy na mapach w nawigacjach GPS i internecie

Been in: A, B, BIH, BR, C, CH, CZ, D, DK, E, F, FL, GB, GE, GBR, H, HR, I, L, LT, MC, MEX, MNE, N, NL, P, PL, RO, RD, RSM, S, SK, SLO, SRB, TR, UA, USA, V
Driven in: A, B, BIH, BR, CH, CZ, D, DK, E, F, FL, GB, GBR, H, HR, I, L, MC, MNE, N, NL, P, PL, RO, S, SLO, SK, SRB, TR, USA
mappero no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 04:14 PM   #17132
Surel
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,702
Likes (Received): 2154

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle View Post
At a much higher cost per ton probably.... I doubt whether the speed advantage of rail freight for intercontinental traffic can weigh against the large volume advantages of shipping.

But I presume there is a market for some commodities to be shipped by train along such distances, where time is money.
Maybe, Chinese are quite busy with setting up rail routes through Kazakhstan. The original article on this one.

It doesnt seem to be so clear on the ship versus train costs. The train can also run from A to B without modal changes which saves on costs even further.
Also don't forget that the trains run on electricity and not oil, which can show more and more important, unless they would build nuclear container ships in the future.

http://richardtorian.blogspot.nl/201...-shipping.html


http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/e...sttonmile.html
Surel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 04:17 PM   #17133
Surel
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,702
Likes (Received): 2154

Quote:
Originally Posted by g.spinoza View Post
It is a poor design tout court. QWERTY was adopted to slow the typing process, because in early typewriters the hammers got stuck together when the typist was too fast.
The best layout should be Dvorak... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
Surel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 04:27 PM   #17134
Surel
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,702
Likes (Received): 2154

Interesting figures and page about the China Europe freight rail plans.
http://www.psrail.com/figures.html
Surel no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 04:57 PM   #17135
Penn's Woods
Deadpan Snarker
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,241
Likes (Received): 779

I don't want to open up a political issue, particularly one that's none of my business, but I know there are Spaniards on this forum and I have a question: BBC News last night had a report on a demonstration for Catalan independence that took place (broke out spontaneously? was planned? I don't know) at a Barça match. A lot of people were waving these flags: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...endenc-008.jpg

My question is, what's the one with the blue in it? I thought it was Valencia, but it appears I was mistaken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ba...iana_(2x3).svg
(And when I did think it was Valencia, I was surprised to see that.)
__________________
I didn't vote for him....

DRIVEN IN BEEN IN:
AL CA CT DE DC FL GA ID IL IN KY ME MD MA MI MN MO MT NH NJ NY NC ND OH OR PA RI SC SD TN UT VT VA WA WV WI WY ---
AB BC MB NB NS ON PE QC SK ---
A B CH D F GB I L NL
Penn's Woods no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 05:04 PM   #17136
g.spinoza
Lord Kelvin
 
g.spinoza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Torino
Posts: 9,490
Likes (Received): 2102


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independentism

Two versions of the same flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estelada
History and meaning of the flag(s)
g.spinoza está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 05:04 PM   #17137
CNGL
Leudimin
 
CNGL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Huesca
Posts: 7,450
Likes (Received): 1932

That is the Catalan independentist flag. Those catalans are dumb, they don't know the day after they declare independence they will be bombed and invaded by Spain. I have written a hypothetical Spain vs Catalonia war, with the former winning, of course.
__________________
Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum, quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non nunquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem - Cicero, De finibus bonorum et malorum, from which placeholder text is derived.
CNGL no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 05:10 PM   #17138
Penn's Woods
Deadpan Snarker
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,241
Likes (Received): 779

Quote:
Originally Posted by g.spinoza View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independentism

Two versions of the same flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estelada
History and meaning of the flag(s)
Interesting. Did you know that when the Flemish Lion flag has black, rather than red, claws, it's the separatist version?* Which must make it hard to tell which version of the flag you're seeing (on TV among the spectators to a bike race, for example) unless you're close to it and the wind is calm....: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Flanders


*I realize the English Wikipedia article doesn't quite say that; I've heard that elsewhere. And the Dutch Wiki version does.
__________________
I didn't vote for him....

DRIVEN IN BEEN IN:
AL CA CT DE DC FL GA ID IL IN KY ME MD MA MI MN MO MT NH NJ NY NC ND OH OR PA RI SC SD TN UT VT VA WA WV WI WY ---
AB BC MB NB NS ON PE QC SK ---
A B CH D F GB I L NL
Penn's Woods no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 05:14 PM   #17139
Penn's Woods
Deadpan Snarker
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,241
Likes (Received): 779

Quote:
Originally Posted by CNGL View Post
That is the Catalan independentist flag. Those catalans are dumb, they don't know the day after they declare independence they will be bombed and invaded by Spain. I have written a hypothetical Spain vs Catalonia war, with the former winning, of course.
Do you really think war would break out?
__________________
I didn't vote for him....

DRIVEN IN BEEN IN:
AL CA CT DE DC FL GA ID IL IN KY ME MD MA MI MN MO MT NH NJ NY NC ND OH OR PA RI SC SD TN UT VT VA WA WV WI WY ---
AB BC MB NB NS ON PE QC SK ---
A B CH D F GB I L NL
Penn's Woods no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2012, 05:18 PM   #17140
g.spinoza
Lord Kelvin
 
g.spinoza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Torino
Posts: 9,490
Likes (Received): 2102

Quote:
Originally Posted by Penn's Woods View Post
Interesting. Did you know that when the Flemish Lion flag has black, rather than red, claws, it's the separatist version?* Which must make it hard to tell which version of the flag you're seeing (on TV among the spectators to a bike race, for example) unless you're close to it and the wind is calm....: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Flanders


*I realize the English Wikipedia article doesn't quite say that; I've heard that elsewhere. And the Dutch Wiki version does.

It reminds me of the Republic of Venice flag. When the Serenissima was at peace, St. Mark's lion had an open book between its paws:


when it was at war, the lion had a closed book and a sword:


howver, Italian wikipedia says that this was never codified...
g.spinoza está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
highways, motorways

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium