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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #17681
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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:18 PM   #17682
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Tragic, obviously. We have too much of this crap happening (well even one's too much), but I'm staying away from the topic because it will inevitably get political.
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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:39 PM   #17683
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I meant, if it's your mother tongue. Somehow I doubt you'd wanna change it, if it was the same in Italian.
But in Italian we don't say numbers in the wrong order

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I believe the Norwegian government actually did try to change the rule (from seven-and-twenty to twenty-seven) for their language, but it didn't take. Language doesn't work that way.
Yep, but from time to time the Germans use to apply "official revisions" of their language (nothing too revolutionary, indeed).
Oh, the eternal struggle between practical and academic language evolution...
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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #17684
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Oh, the eternal struggle between practical and academic language evolution...
Change language for traffic and it's all the same.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #17685
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People don't drive their cars in playgrounds, so you can also not expect to be able let children play on busy streets.
I was ironic, you know.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 02:05 AM   #17686
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But in Italian we don't say numbers in the wrong order
I know. But even if you pronounced them in the "wrong" order, somehow I doubt you'd wanna change it.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #17687
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Tragic, obviously. We have too much of this crap happening (well even one's too much), but I'm staying away from the topic because it will inevitably get political.
no politics, no trolling, i promise. you just have to keep in mind that you might get shot in the head by some idiot when entering the US. thats the way it is. a shame for a beautiful country like the USA. you "just" have to ban the guns nationalwide, thats the only solution.

anyway, waiting for the next couple of people getting killed because they went shopping or to school at the wrong time in america...

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Old December 15th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #17688
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Change language for traffic and it's all the same.
Well not exactly the same. You can force people to switch from left- to right-hand traffic, but apparently you can't force them to switch from seven-ninety to ninety-seven.

By the way, I read somewhere that the German number spelling rule causes a higher number of dyslexia-like illnesses.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #17689
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no politics, no trolling, i promise.
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you just have to keep in mind that you might get shot in the head by some idiot when entering the US. thats the way it is.
anyway, waiting for the next couple of people getting killed because they went shopping or to school at the wrong time in america...
Sorry, but this doesn't seem exactly the most peaceful way to discuss the matter That's just the beginning of another discussion about "Americans = barbarians"...

One might get shot in the head by some idiot when entering any given country, whatever their gun policy is (Breivik, anyone?); if you really want a gun you'll get it by any means possible, anywhere in the world; getting one legally in the US is just probably easier.

That's a long lasting cultural issue which can't be solved by a simple firearms ban; that would just generate a giant black market (losing the control the State already has) and a political uprise of fanatics of personal defence...

But I don't have enough information to say more about this. I'd like to hear the POW of Penn's or other US citizens.


EDIT: apart from the fact that I personally dislike any easy firearms policy, the point in this sad story is not how the fool did it, but why.
If we don't understand why and apply our political efforts in removing guns from the people, the next crazy guy will do it anyway, but hurting people with some other instruments...
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #17690
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Banning guns is the only way. Wake up, America.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:30 PM   #17691
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One might get shot in the head by some idiot when entering any given country, whatever their gun policy is (Breivik, anyone?); if you really want a gun you'll get it by any means possible, anywhere in the world; getting one legally in the US is just probably easier.
That doesn't explain why yearly death toll by handgun in the US is 2-3 orders of magnitude larger than in any large European country, while US population is at best 1 order of magnitude larger.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #17692
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That's right Europeans. It's really our job to tell Americans how to live their lives.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #17693
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #17694
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:57 PM   #17695
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Speak it out, G. We can have a civilized discussion on here.

I'm not going to tell Americans to wake up or critizise their laws, because it's not my job. I'm not a voter there, and looking at Europe's record, we are really not in a position to judge. What I will do is wish our friends strength to deal with this situation, and tell them I'm really sorry about what happened.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:01 PM   #17696
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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:10 PM   #17697
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Speak it out, G. We can have a civilized discussion on here.

I'm not going to tell Americans to wake up or critizise their laws, because it's not my job. I'm not a voter there, and looking at Europe's record, we are really not in a position to judge. What I will do is wish our friends strength to deal with this situation, and tell them I'm really sorry about what happened.
No thanks, I dediced I'll pass on any discussion not related to roads or harmless things like Christmas trees
It' not about what others can say to me, it's about what can I say to others. I don't like myself in these situations so I better not give me the chance to hate myself
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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:12 PM   #17698
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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #17699
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That's right Europeans. It's really our job to tell Americans how to live their lives.
Have you ever heard of freedom of speech? Especially on a forum.

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Norway.
Breivik? That was an isolated event, in the US it happens all the time.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #17700
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[QUOTE="Verso;98328250"]Have you ever heard of freedom of speech? Especially on a forum.

Breivik? That was an isolated event, in the US it happens all the time.[QUOTE]



Say what you want. Expect me to respond when I read stuff that isn't any of your business in the first place. Or haven't you hear of freedom of speech?

Speaking of isolated incidents... That what happened in what your current homeland was a part of these days... Was that an isolated incident as well?
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