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Old January 23rd, 2013, 02:19 AM   #18621
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I have respect for the French. they might have the worst bureaucracy in the world and extremly lazy public sector, but they are very fair and a lot less nationalistic than other big eu countries.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 02:49 AM   #18622
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a lot less nationalistic than other big eu countries.
Well... this could be debatable

I don't think they're nationalistic in a badass fanatic way (or, they're not worse than any other country), but IMHO they have an excessively self-centered vision of the world.
I often had the best example during my trips there, when in many occasions I tried starting a casual conversation, following my usual pattern: a basic greeting in the local language, and the question if the person speaks English (if possible, asked in the local language too). People usually understand that I can't speak what they speak but at least I'm making an effort to get closer.

France is the only place where, when I ask:
"Parlez-vous anglais?"
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"No; parlez-vous français?"

Oh, for ****'s sake that's pretty obvious I don't, why would I ever try speaking English in France to a Frenchman if I knew French?
Actually they don't do that to provoke, that's just natural that a citizen of the world is supposed to speak French I'm making my part in speaking a common language, now do yours...

(of course this happens more in rural areas)
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 03:50 AM   #18623
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 04:17 AM   #18624
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 04:22 AM   #18625
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Here we go again . Lemme guess, you know everything about the French...

Oh, and you can keep the speech to yourself,
I happen to know a lot about France and the French, and I don't have to keep anything from snotty boys from Holland.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 05:07 AM   #18626
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It's not always garlic, sometimes it is fresh onion(with smoked bacon).
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 05:15 AM   #18627
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That's good to know. In reality they still hate each other.
All right, let's make this more positive: who do they like?
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 05:39 AM   #18628
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All right, let's make this more positive: who do they like?
The Russians.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 06:52 AM   #18629
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All right, let's make this more positive: who do they like?
Me. And I never have any problems there. Always friendly and helpful.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 07:09 AM   #18630
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Me. And I never have any problems there. Always friendly and helpful.
I have driven there my own Finland-registered cars, and German-registered rental cars, and that makes some difference. Some Frenchmen seem to enter primitive reactions if they see a German car. Never problems with the Finnish license plates.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 07:20 AM   #18631
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Me. And I never have any problems there. Always friendly and helpful.
Which "there" are you talking about: France or Germany?
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 08:43 AM   #18632
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Which "there" are you talking about: France or Germany?
France. I have more problems in Germany. Not that I dislike Germany or Germans...
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 08:46 AM   #18633
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I have driven there my own Finland-registered cars, and German-registered rental cars, and that makes some difference. Some Frenchmen seem to enter primitive reactions if they see a German car. Never problems with the Finnish license plates.
I never notice any difference, whether I'm driving with a French, British, Austrian or Dutch plate...
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 08:58 AM   #18634
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France is the only place where, when I ask:
"Parlez-vous anglais?"
I get the answer:
"No; parlez-vous français?"

Oh, for ****'s sake that's pretty obvious I don't, why would I ever try speaking English in France to a Frenchman if I knew French?
Actually they don't do that to provoke, that's just natural that a citizen of the world is supposed to speak French I'm making my part in speaking a common language, now do yours...

(of course this happens more in rural areas)
It's probably because until around 30 years ago French was the most taught foteign language in Italian schools, when they finally realized that was more useful to teach English. So, they're used to the old generation of Italians having a basic knowledge of French.
Apart this, the French hate towards English language is well-known. Are they the only folk that translate the word computer?
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I have driven there my own Finland-registered cars, and German-registered rental cars, and that makes some difference. Some Frenchmen seem to enter primitive reactions if they see a German car. Never problems with the Finnish license plates.
I guess that most people in Europe don't even know from where a Finnish plate is, you don't see them often.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:06 AM   #18635
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Apart this, the French hate towards English language is well-known. Are they the only folk that translate the word computer?
Yeah, for the first part, but I met also some Germans that don't like, don't speak, or speak very bad English. Many colleagues from work can't watch films without at least German subtitles. I"m guessing it's the consequence of voice doubling in TV and media.

Also after one year spent here it's still hilarious how they can't pronounce "th" and "w" and how they set the accent on the vrong vowel.

About the word computer, the Germans have their own word too, Rechner, it has kind of the same meaning as the French one. They also have the Windows interface in German and it's very unsuggestive to me used to the English one. And the keyboard layout, I hate it, I brought 2 English leyboards from Romania with me, just in case one goes kaputt, you almost can't find any here.

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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:12 AM   #18636
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There are only a very few Italians that speak English.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:14 AM   #18637
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My Italian is pretty ok, so not that big of a problem. My girlfriend even understands almost everything, and Spanish too, but has problems with speaking. And yes, she speaks also French
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:22 AM   #18638
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There are only a very few Italians that speak English.
Young people usually have a quite good English knowledge, at least in the written form. The pronunciation is more problematic.
I read that the worst in Europe are the Spanish, the best Dutch and Scandinavians.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 10:34 AM   #18639
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Young people usually have a quite good English knowledge, at least in the written form. The pronunciation is more problematic.
I read that the worst in Europe are the Spanish, the best Dutch and Scandinavians.
Yeah, I heard some Spanish speaking either German or English. Terrible accent and pretty hard to understand if not used to .
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 11:00 AM   #18640
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Apart this, the French hate towards English language is well-known. Are they the only folk that translate the word computer?
In Swedish, a computer is "datamaskin" ("data machine"), and the Finnish word "tietokone" means exactly the same.

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I guess that most people in Europe don't even know from where a Finnish plate is, you don't see them often.
Or the Frenchmen recognize the Finns being the miserable folk from the northwest Russia not to harass but to feel sorry for.
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