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Old January 31st, 2013, 07:23 PM   #19001
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Street View covers the Grand Canyon (in French):

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Old January 31st, 2013, 07:33 PM   #19002
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I remember in 2008 that the road between Senj (junction with the Jadranska Magistrala) and the Plitvice lakes had some gravel sections and there were ongoing roadworks. Was the entire road unpaved before or did they remove the old asphalt for repaving it?
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Old January 31st, 2013, 07:40 PM   #19003
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In Italy, (former) national unpaved roads are SS345 between Passo Maniva and Passo Crocedomini, and SS508 up to Passo di Vizze/Pfitscherjoch.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:09 PM   #19004
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I remember in 2008 that the road between Senj (junction with the Jadranska Magistrala) and the Plitvice lakes had some gravel sections and there were ongoing roadworks. Was the entire road unpaved before or did they remove the old asphalt for repaving it?
if you think of this route, it's been paved since tens of years ago. i drove it whole in 2007.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 09:36 PM   #19005
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And also Austria has Street Ski View .
Oh, and I forgot about the blank that was North Korea. It has been filled now .
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Old January 31st, 2013, 10:00 PM   #19006
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Old February 1st, 2013, 01:11 AM   #19007
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Old February 1st, 2013, 01:52 AM   #19008
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Old February 1st, 2013, 02:36 AM   #19009
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You just stay quiet, you can see half of Nova Gorica from Italy.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 03:20 PM   #19010
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Two consecutive lines from Barack Obama article in Romanian Wikipedia:

"De la șase până la zece ani a trăit în Jakarta, împreună cu mama lui și cu tatăl vitreg, indonezian."

I only understand Jakarta and "indonesian". (And maybe "zece ani" means "ten years"?)

From 6 to 10 years he has lived in Jakarta together with his mother and his step father, (an) Indonesian

"Absolvent al Universității Columbia și al Facultății de Drept de la Harvard, înainte de a candida pentru intrarea în administrația publică și de a deveni membru al Senatului statului Illinois între 1997 și 2004, Obama a lucrat ca mobilizator comunitar, docent universitar și ca avocat specializat în apărarea drepturilor civile."

This in pretty clear to me, instead.

EDIT: But this is Danish page, let's end the OT here.
I moved the discussion here to not go further OT on DK page.
It's clear you won't understand everything, I don't understand all Italian writing. But fact is, it's not that different as you think, and if you would live in RO for a while you would learn quickly, I know of many such cases. Italian accent is there, and they have a problem pronouncing "ș = sh in English" and "ă = last "e" in German word "rotes (Auto)" or "e" in English word "younger", î â = I don't know how to explain these, but it's the same as Kîrgîstan", but they speak fluent and perfectly understandable.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 03:27 PM   #19011
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I recognized "zece" as "ten" more from German "zehn" than from Latin "decem"...
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:15 PM   #19012
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If you here it spoken, it's like German "sätsche", so pretty close to "dieci"
RO has also different dialects, so pronunciation also sound different depending on region.

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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:18 PM   #19013
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Putting my linguist hat on, the D palatalized to a Z. I believe Romanian has lots of Zs where other Romance languages have Ds.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:33 PM   #19014
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Hmm, I'm not that sure.
There are not so many words with z, as are with d.

dicembre=decembrie
due=doi
dodici=doisprezece
discussione=discuție
diocesi=dieceză
dio=dumnezeu

zodiaco=zodiac
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:40 PM   #19015
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dio=dumnezeu
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Beware! In Italian there's this old fashioned word for God, "Domineddio" (from latin "Domine deus" (vocative), "God the Lord"). In this case dumne/zeu, the Italian "dd" becomes a "z" in Romanian.
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:49 PM   #19016
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Beware! In Italian there's this old fashioned word for God, "Domineddio" (from latin "Domine deus" (vocative), "God the Lord"). In this case dumne/zeu, the Italian "dd" becomes a "z" in Romanian.
Ok, if dio has the meaning of god (not The God), then the Romanian word is "zeu" (coming from deus I'm guessing or from the greek god Zeus), you're right there
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:49 PM   #19017
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Hmm, I'm not that sure.
There are not so many words with z, as are with d.

dicembre=decembrie
due=doi
dodici=doisprezece
discussione=discuție
diocesi=dieceză
dio=dumnezeu

zodiaco=zodiac
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Might depend on what vowel's next (palatalization is less likely before "low" vowels - vowels spoken low in the mouth like O) than high ones. And these sorts of changes tend to happen once, so words borrowed into the language afterwards wouldn't be affected.

Okay, now you've got me curious. Wiki language articles are sometimes pretty good. I shall return....

EDIT: Voilà : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania...onetic_changes (Last bullet)
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Old February 1st, 2013, 04:54 PM   #19018
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Might depend on what vowel's next (palatalization is less likely before "low" vowels - vowels spoken low in the mouth like O) than high ones. And these sorts of changes tend to happen once, so words borrowed into the language afterwards wouldn't be affected.

Okay, now you've got me curious. Wiki language articles are sometimes pretty good. I shall return....
I haven't really studied this subject. But I think most of the words that are similar, are pretty much similar, and there are also a lot of words that have nothing similar, could be that one of the languages has a similar word with the same meaning (that is outdated now), or has no similar word, for example many RO words come from Slavic.

EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania...onetic_changes
Go to Language sample, that's very interesting

Although I understand all variants, I wouldn't use the last 2 of them, could be that Romanian ethnics (and Banatian) from Serbia would use the 3rd one more. They're dialect was not so hard affected by the reform in 1848 and French additions. The Banat dialect for example remained pure in Serbian Banat, while in Romanian one, it's much more uniformed with written/standard language.

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Old February 1st, 2013, 06:45 PM   #19019
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Apart some words that are quite obvious, Rumanian is very difficult for me to understand, compared to other major latin languages (Spanish, French, Portoguese and Catalan).
For example in this song:

the only words that are similar to Italian are "ochii tai" (occhi tuoi, your eyes).
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Old February 1st, 2013, 08:02 PM   #19020
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the only words that are similar to Italian are "ochii tai" (occhi tuoi, your eyes).
Are there any differences between the romanian & moldovan languages ?
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