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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:11 AM   #19241
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Well, Tilburg is not the prettiest place. A lot of boring concrete and bricks. I suppose it could go for a suburb to Eindhoven or Antwerp...
Tilburg has some VERY NICE suburbs, but regrettably I can't afford places like these yet:

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Old February 14th, 2013, 10:06 AM   #19242
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How much does cost for example a house on first or second link?

(not that I would want to live in a boring flatland, just curiosity)
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Old February 14th, 2013, 10:44 AM   #19243
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How much does cost for example a house on first or second link?

(not that I would want to live in a boring flatland, just curiosity)
The detached ones would cost from € 310.000 upwards listed price (probably less with discounts given the lousy market), they have 135m² of heated area
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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:44 PM   #19244
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Nice surprise this morning: thieves broke the window of my car and stole my gps and the car registration document, and during the process broke the driver's chair also.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 01:49 PM   #19245
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Nice surprise this morning: thieves broke the window of my car and stole my gps and the car registration document, and during the process broke the driver's chair also.
That's sad
Years ago I was attending a wedding ceremony at a church. When we left the church, many of our cars had broken windows and presents were stolen
I wonder what they do with your car documents.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #19246
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I wonder what they do with your car documents.
Yes, this is the thing that concerns me most. I fear they might break into my home now that they know the address.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #19247
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That is why I never leave the car papers in the car.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 02:23 PM   #19248
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That is why I never leave the car papers in the car.
I really never gave a thought about this. I -almost- always take valuables with me. This time I left the gps in the car out of distraction, but it was not visible from the outside (it was wrapped in a little sack of a cheese brand). I guess they saw the gps power cable and the frame and they went to see if the unit was there too.

I went this morning to Carabinieri, and a couple behind me had the same thing done to the car, but they didn't steal the papers.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #19249
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that sucks
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Old February 14th, 2013, 02:52 PM   #19250
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Yes, this is the thing that concerns me most. I fear they might break into my home now that they know the address.
But they could break into any house. Maybe they could clone your identity if they have enough data on the papers. Else, they can come to your house and watch if you are on vacation and then break in. But they can also do this anywhere else.

While in Germany I always leave the Autoschein inside, to not have to get it every time I drive somewhere. The other paper that contains the paper with you can sell the car stays at home.

In Prague I took everything from the car, and left the glove department open empty. Anyway, nothing happened.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 02:55 PM   #19251
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I must say those thieves have some style. They left a chocolate candy on the passenger's seat. I guess they remembered about Valentine's day.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 03:02 PM   #19252
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I must say those thieves have some style. They left a chocolate candy on the passenger's seat. I guess they remembered about Valentine's day.


I didn't have such experiences, but it's certainly not nice. Besides the things they steal from the car, sometimes not being so much, it's the damage they do to the car that's bad, replacing the window, and in your case the passenger seat. Sometimes I'm thinking you can leave the car door open, so at least they don't destroy anything to get in...
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Old February 14th, 2013, 03:12 PM   #19253
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Yeah, hopefully my insurance company is gonna pay the damages (I'm not sure yet). But I lost one day at a job I'm still a probationer, forced me to rent a car for the weekend (tomorrow is Brescia's patron day and everything is closed - but I work outside Brescia so I still have to go to work), and have to rebuy a GPS, and no insurance company is going to refund those.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #19254
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Yes, this is the thing that concerns me most. I fear they might break into my home now that they know the address.
Maybe they stole the papers to check later if there was cash or something else valuable hidden in the stash. If so, they will throw your papers either in a trash can or in a post box, depending how bad criminals they are. If you have an expensive car they can assume you're rich and burglarize your house.
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I must say those thieves have some style. They left a chocolate candy on the passenger's seat. I guess they remembered about Valentine's day.
Mocking level: 1000000

Anyway, the GPS unit should never be keep in plain sight inside your parked car.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #19255
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Maybe they stole the papers to check later if there was cash or something else valuable hidden in the stash. If so, they will throw your papers either in a trash can or in a post box, depending how bad criminals they are.
I hoped they threw away my papers in the nearby fields, but found nothing.

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If you have an expensive car they can assume you're rich and burglarize your house.
My car was the second cheapest in the whole street, only an 80s Fiat Panda was cheaper.

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Anyway, the GPS unit should never be keep in plain sight inside your parked car.
It wasn't. As I said, it was in the door's inside pocket, wrapped into a jute sack with "Formaggio di Fossa" written on it. Cables, but above all the holder, were visible from the outside.
I must say, a Formaggio di Fossa would have been more expensive than my 6-years-old gps unit.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #19256
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I must say those thieves have some style. They left a chocolate candy on the passenger's seat. I guess they remembered about Valentine's day.
That's cold.

And also slightly funny, sorry.

Do you use your gps much?
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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #19257
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That's cold.

And also slightly funny, sorry.

Do you use your gps much?
As a matter of fact not that much in recent times. But yes, I use it quite frequently. I guess I have to buy a new one.

I reported the theft to Garmin and if someone connects with Garmin website with my unit, they can block it.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #19258
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As a matter of fact not that much in recent times. But yes, I use it quite frequently. I guess I have to buy a new one.

I reported the theft to Garmin and if someone connects with Garmin website with my unit, they can block it.
What about purchasing a smarthphone with integrated GPS, if you don't already own one? You don't need to have another device in the car and, since it's connected to the net, it doesn't need to be update (it uses Google Maps).
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #19259
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It's an idea. But net connection isn't for free, and I'm not willing to pay for something even when I'm not using it.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:41 PM   #19260
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It's an idea. But net connection isn't for free, and I'm not willing to pay for something even when I'm not using it.
There are pretty good offline nav programs for Android, based on OSM maps. My favourite is this one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...mF2aWdhdG9yIl0.

A smartphone without net connection would be a problem for me, but I see many people using it as a standard phone and using just WiFi at home and work.
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