Info: GDP per capita (PPP)

[Wizzard]

Hello!

Yesterday I read in the newspaper that Bratislava region still has the second highest GDP per capita (PPP) from all new EU countries (Prague is the first) with 147,9 percent of EU average (Prague 160 percent).

I would like to know the data about Ljubljana region (if there is) or Slovenia as a whole. Thank you very much

[Verso]

Actually of all new EU members the richest capital (it isn't a region though) must be Nicosia (don't know the stats). Finding data for Ljubljana without surroundings is a pain in the ass.

[Wizzard]

Well, I see that you are right. It seems that Slovenia as a whole country is recognized as 1 EU region only instead of more regions in Slovakia and other countries... At least from this pictures.

[Verso]

Here you have the percentage of the Slovenian statistical regions in 2005. Osrednjeslovenska (statistična regija) = Central Slovenian (statistical region), but it's much more than just Ljubljana, b/c it includes 500,000 inhabitants (Ljubljana is just 250,000-300,000):


http://www.stat.si/eng/novica_prikazi.aspx?id=1318

With Eurostats data you can easily calculate the percentage of the EU average.

[MBM]

Originally Posted by Wizzard

Hello!

Yesterday I read in the newspaper that Bratislava region still has the second highest GDP per capita (PPP) from all new EU countries (Prague is the first) with 147,9 percent of EU average (Prague 160 percent).

I would like to know the data about Ljubljana region (if there is) or Slovenia as a whole. Thank you very much

New (2005)data came out. Slovenia is divided in 2 regions. West Slovenia is at 104% of EU average, and East Slovenia is at 71% of EU avg. They both have 1 million population.

2007 data shows that Slovenia is at 91,2% of EU average.

And believe me these figures of capital regions are not relevant at all. If someone is living near Vienna and works in Vienna GDP will be artificially higher.
Whole central Slovenia (Capital + 2x of population) is at 138% of EU avg.
On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.

But who cares Salaries are more important. Ljubljana had avg salary at 1040€ a month, my Maribor had 910€, and important fact is that Slovenia has registred unemployment at 6,8% while ILO is 4,3%

[Alexandros O'Megalos]

On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.
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Were they referring to GDP per capita or to the one adjusted with PPP?

[Alexandros O'Megalos]

He must have been referring to net salaries!?

Matr si pa hiter MBM, sploh ne utegnem napisat )

[Verso]

Originally Posted by MBM

On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.

Originally Posted by Alexandros O'Megalos

On TV they said that Ljubljana GDP is 2,5x of Slovenia average.

Are you two the same person? I don't believe that. Where and when did they say it?

[Alexandros O'Megalos]

I was just repeating MBM's quote.

[Alexandros O'Megalos]

Combining Eurostat data with Slovenian Statistics Office data, GDP per capita (PPP) of Central SLO region is 125% of the EU average. According to my estimates, GDP per capita (PPP) of Ljubljana (toghether with another municipality, Ljubljana is the richest NUTS-3(4) region in Slovenia) should be somewhere between 160 and 200% of the Slovenian average. This should translate into something between 140 and 175% of EU average.

[Wizzard]

Okay, thank you for the explanation. I understand that the capitals in Europe are almost always something like "state in the state". So if LJ GDP/capita (PPP) is 2.5x SI average, it is 228 percent of EU, what is pretty nice!

But... are you sure that average salary (I mean gross salary) in Ljubljana is (only) 1040€/month? In Bratislava, it is around 820€, but I heard that the average salary in Slovenia is around 1200€!

[MBM]

Originally Posted by Wizzard

Okay, thank you for the explanation. I understand that the capitals in Europe are almost always something like "state in the state". So if LJ GDP/capita (PPP) is 2.5x SI average, it is 228 percent of EU, what is pretty nice!

But... are you sure that average salary (I mean gross salary) in Ljubljana is (only) 1040€/month? In Bratislava, it is around 820€, but I heard that the average salary in Slovenia is around 1200€!

I was talking about netto salary

Gross salary in Ljubljana is 1788€, while for Slovenia is 1491€ (945€ netto)

[Wizzard]

Originally Posted by MBM

I was talking about netto salary

Gross salary in Ljubljana is 1788€, while for Slovenia is 1491€ (945€ netto)

oh, okay, I understand now
we usually do not talk about netto salaries in Slovakia

[MBM]

Originally Posted by Wizzard

oh, okay, I understand now
we usually do not talk about netto salaries in Slovakia

We always talk about netto salaries. Who cares how high gross is It is important what you get montly on you account

But i understand that gross salaries are much higher. Healtcare is for free, so are dentist and university studies

[Verso]

Originally Posted by MBM

We always talk about netto salaries. Who cares how high gross is It is important what you get montly on you account

That's important, yes, but if you wanna know the state of the whole country, gross is more important, b/c obviously your money goes somewhere else, but in the same country.

Anyway, may I ask why you're so much interested in this, Wizzard? Do you have some discussion going on in the Central European subforum?

[Wizzard]

Anyway, isn't it strange that the gross salary is 70 percent higher than netto salary?? For example, in Bratislava, when I have 900€/month, I get 700€ netto, so the difference is up to 30 percent.

[Alexandros O'Megalos]

In fact you have to take gross salary as the basis for your calculation. So if you do that there is no way you get 70% difference. Differences between gross and net salaries in Slovenia are up to 50%, which is not unique in the EU. Similar situation is in Belgium and I am sure there are other countires as well. One thing is sure: Slovenian public sector is expensive, hence, amongst others, the need for high taxes and social contibutions!!

[MBM]

Originally Posted by Wizzard

Anyway, isn't it strange that the gross salary is 70 percent higher than netto salary?? For example, in Bratislava, when I have 900€/month, I get 700€ netto, so the difference is up to 30 percent.

If your gross salary would be 900€ in Slovenia, your netto salary would be 628€.

As Alexandroas said we have expensive public sector.

But who cares. When you negotiate with your employer you negotiate about NETTO salary and not GROSS

I would simply not give up free healthcare, dentists, university studies for few % higher salary


p.s.: Wizard how high is netto salary in Slovakia?

[Marek.kvackaj]

Originally Posted by MBM

how high is netto salary in Slovakia?

data for year 2007
average gross salary in Slovakia is 21 000 SKK = 650 Euro
=btw your employer pay altogether for you 28 393 SKK = 875 Euro (included all taxes)

so if let say - you are single without children

average net salary is 16 481 SKK = 510 Euro + extra pension 30 Euro a month from Employer on your account

[MBM]

Originally Posted by Marek.kvackaj

data for year 2007
average gross salary in Slovakia is 21 000 SKK = 650 Euro
=btw your employer pay altogether for you 28 393 SKK = 875 Euro (included all taxes)

so if let say - you are single without children

average net salary is 16 481 SKK = 510 Euro + extra pension 30 Euro a month from Employer on your account

I didnt know nett salary in Slovakia is that low?! Even Croatia has higher nett salary (675€).