Past & present in NW London

[howelee]

Originally Posted by Justme

Ain't you the guy that claimed London had no modern buildings of merit, but loved the commie blocks of China?

yes, I am.

aren't you the guy who can't tell the differences between commie blocks and modern buildings? nice to meet you again

[howelee]

Originally Posted by Justme

Ain't you the guy that claimed London had no modern buildings of merit, but loved the commie blocks of China?

loving modern buildings in china doesn't mean i don't know how to appreciate traditional building in london

london's modern face is a piece of shit.

[Justme]

Originally Posted by howelee

yes, I am.

aren't you the guy who can't tell the differences between commie blocks and modern buildings? nice to meet you again

Well, I can certainly tell what these are from Beijing. And I can also say I prefer the rows of Victorian houses to these. You can certainly have this brave wonderful modern face.

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[howelee]

Originally Posted by Justme

Well, I can certainly tell what these are from Beijing. And I can also say I prefer the rows of Victorian houses to these. You can certainly have this brave wonderful modern face.

you are such a funny guy, there are countless threads on this forum about China's booming new cities, but you only remember this sea of blocks,why didn't you find a picture of slums in Shanghai and said, 'look, this is how modern China's richest city looks like!'

I've seen the list of your posts, you seem to be very eurocentric as i didn't find any post about non-European countries.I wonder if you have ever viewed the page of supertalls or not,(http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=902 ) just look at how many skysrcapers taller than 400m are being develped there in Shenzhen, a southern Chinese city unknown to most Europeans, look at thoes designs, do you think they are commie blocks?

[Justme]

Originally Posted by howelee

you are such a funny guy, there are countless threads on this forum about China's booming new cities, but you only remember this sea of blocks,why didn't you find a picture of slums in Shanghai and said, 'look, this is how modern China's richest city looks like!'

Are you trying to read my mind here? If you bothered to actually read what I was saying instead of just putting the words together you may realize that the image was a reflection of your comments, particularly in other threads, that London has never built any good modern architecture unlike the great nation of the Peoples Republic of China. You often comment how wonderful all the modern architecture in China is compared to Britain. But the fact remains that most of the modern architecture in China is uninspiring, repetitive and bland.

Yes, there are also some great modern buildings in China, and new ones of outstanding quality will be built in the future. I certainly don't doubt this. But they are not the majority in any case.

Your claim then is often that there are no good modern buildings at all in Britain which is utterly absurd and based on your xenophobic attitudes towards Britain (and Europe) and your strong nationalist ties to China. I disagree with this completely.

Have you made any English friends whilst studying in London? Do you go out to pubs with the locals and share a drink, or do you just hang around your Chinese friends and complain how terrible that country is and how much better everything is back home in China? I do hope this is not true, but I surely can't imagine you making friendly conversation with the locals by the way you write on this forum.

Originally Posted by howelee

I've seen the list of your posts, you seem to be very eurocentric as i didn't find any post about non-European countries.I wonder if you have ever viewed the page of supertalls or not

That must be one of the stupidest posts on this forum. Sure, I am interested in town planning and architecture in Europe. I live in Europe. So now in your eyes I am Euro-centric. Personally, I couldn't give a stuff what you think. I may not write much about Asia in these here forums, but I make up for that in actually travelling there. I've been to several Eastern Asian countries, many of these more than once such as Japan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand. That's not terribly Euro-centric in my books.

[howelee]

Originally Posted by Justme

Are you trying to read my mind here? If you bothered to actually read what I was saying instead of just putting the words together you may realize that the image was a reflection of your comments, particularly in other threads, that London has never built any good modern architecture unlike the great nation of the Peoples Republic of China.

For the question of the new buidings in London is good or not, I think it depends on what standard you use, of course, there are some nice modern buildings in London, but you need to beware that London is not an ordinary city, it is the world finacial center and the economic captial of the Europe. People have higher expectations on London. Unfortunately, the design and the quality of modern building in London dissatisfied us, they do not match London's status as a world class city.

Originally Posted by Justme

You often comment how wonderful all the modern architecture in China is compared to Britain. But the fact remains that most of the modern architecture in China is uninspiring, repetitive and bland.Yes, there are also some great modern buildings in China, and new ones of outstanding quality will be built in the future. I certainly don't doubt this. But they are not the majority in any case .

I have never said all the buildings in China are superior to the British buidlings, I'm not an idiot like that. What i mean is that the top modern buildings in London can not compare with their counterparts in Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, and even some second tier cities in China. I must admit that sometimes i did exaggerate the fact in order to emphasis the gap and to attract attention.

Originally Posted by Justme

Your claim then is often that there are no good modern buildings at all in Britain which is utterly absurd and based on your xenophobic attitudes towards Britain (and Europe) and your strong nationalist ties to China. I disagree with this completely.

Have you made any English friends whilst studying in London? Do you go out to pubs with the locals and share a drink, or do you just hang around your Chinese friends and complain how terrible that country is and how much better everything is back home in China? I do hope this is not true, but I surely can't imagine you making friendly conversation with the locals by the way you write on this forum.

I have lots of European friends here and I go to pubs almost every week. however I never started topics like economic competitiveness or city modernity as I often did on this forum. I don't want to offend people's proundness and dignity of being the citizens of the world center, you know, most Britons here have a very pround feeling, they do not care about the non-western world at all. that's why I always try to aviod these kind of topics, I'm speaking my real feelings only on the internet, I don't mind saying this to offend you because you are not my friend and I don't know who you are.

but, as a phd student majored in economics, I'm holding a view that the decline of this country is inevitable if the politicians keep running it in such a stupid way and if the citizen keeps living like frogs at the bottom of a well. The decline of this country has already been reflcted in the quality of the buildings. Look at the elegant buildings in the victorian era, and look at the new ones today, this gap makes not only you sad, but also me sad as well.

Originally Posted by Justme

That must be one of the stupidest posts on this forum. Sure, I am interested in town planning and architecture in Europe. I live in Europe. So now in your eyes I am Euro-centric. Personally, I couldn't give a stuff what you think. I may not write much about Asia in these here forums, but I make up for that in actually travelling there. I've been to several Eastern Asian countries, many of these more than once such as Japan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand. That's not terribly Euro-centric in my books.

If you visited China in 2004, why not come again in 2008, you will find the progress make it a different country. you know, in some fastest growing cities, such as Ningbo in Zhejiang province, the map of the city is updated every month. China is changing 24/7, any view on this country is always old fashioned and outdated

For this topic, I would like to recommend an article on the Independent to you, I think it is a good observation.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...st-787831.html

[kevinkagy]

Beautiful photos, thanks! Lovely London.

[Tetramesh]

And a few more...

West Hampstead Station (Westbound Platform)
West Hampstead station (known as West End Lane station until 1975) opened in 1888 and is now part of the London Overground.
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West Hampstead Station (Westbound Platform) by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1908)
(1940)
(2008)



West Hampstead Station (Eastbound Platform)
West Hampstead station (known as West End Lane station until 1975) opened in 1888 and is now part of the London Overground.
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West Hampstead Station (Eastbound Platform) by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1968)
(1992)
(2008)




Swiss Cottage Station
The old Swiss Cottage station on the Metropolitan Line and how it looks today. The only feature to remain in this scene is the church spire in the distance.
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Swiss Cottage Station by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(Year unknown)
(2008)

[Tetramesh]

West Hampstead Station
West Hampstead station (known as West End Lane station until 1975) opened in 1888 and is now part of the London Overground.
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West Hampstead Station by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1940)
(2008)



West Hampstead Station
West Hampstead station (known as West End Lane station until 1975) opened in 1888 and is now part of the London Overground.
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West Hampstead Station by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1953)
(2008)

[flare]

Really enjoyed these especially as used to live in South Hampstead. Number 68 is amazing, you can just make out the church spire and that's about it.

[Tetramesh]

Originally Posted by flare

Really enjoyed these especially as used to live in South Hampstead. Number 68 is amazing, you can just make out the church spire and that's about it.

Yep, the scene in #68 has changed considerably, apart from the church spire there isn't much else that hasn't changed.

[NothingBetterToDo]

Wonderful as always.

I've spent the last few months working in and around this very area - i've really got to know it quite well, so even more interesting to see how things have changed.

[Tetramesh]

Thanks for all the comments, I'm glad you enjoy seeing them as much as I like making them. The locations of where these photos were taken can be found on this map.

Swiss Cottage Odeon
The Swiss Cottage Odeon opened on Saturday 4 September 1937. It is now a multi-screen cinema.
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Swiss Cottage Odeon by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(year unknown)
(2008)



West Hampstead Police Station
The nearest building, the one on the corner of West Hampstead Mews, was the police station until 1972.
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West Hampstead Police Station by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1900)
(2008)



Finchley Road
The Odeon cinema, Swiss Cottage.
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Finchley Road by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1939)
(2008)



Fitzjohns Avenue
The junction of Fitzjohns Avenue and College Crescent.
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Fitzjohns Avenue by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1906)
(2008)



West End Green
The photo on the left shows children from the Emmanuel School celebrating the Queen's Silver Jubilee in 1977.
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West End Green Celebration by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1977)
(2008)



College Crescent
The junction of Finchley Road (on the left) and College Crescent (on the right).
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College Crescent by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1908)
(2008)

[Tetramesh]

West End Green
Route 59 (top) and route 139 (bottom) waiting to begin from the northern end of their routes at West Hampstead, West End Green.
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RM835 At West End Green by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1978)
(2008)

[Zenith]

Originally Posted by howelee

loving modern buildings in china doesn't mean i don't know how to appreciate traditional building in london

london's modern face is a piece of shit.

Jesus

[Tetramesh]

A few more from NW London, these ones are transport related;

Finchley Road Station
The southbound Jubilee Line (formerly Bakerloo Line) platfrom at Finchley Road.
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Finchley Road Platform 3 by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1964)
(2008)


Finchley Road Station
The northbound Jubilee Line (formerly Bakerloo Line) platform at Finchley Road.
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Finchley Road Platform 2 by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(year unknown)
(2008)

New College Parade
Looking north along this part of Finchley Road called New College Parade.
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New College Parade by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1962)
(2008)

Finchley Road Station
The northbound Metropolitan Line platform at Finchley Road.
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Finchley Road Platform 1 by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(year unknown)
(2008)

[freeksregistration]

not a lot changed compared to brussels where they demolished a lot of nice buildings

[Tetramesh]

Swiss Cottage Tavern
The Swiss Cottage Tavern public house.
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Swiss Cottage Tavern by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1907)
(2008)


Whitestone Pond
Whitestone Pond.
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Whitestone Pond by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1930)
(2008)


North End Village
North End Village with Sandy Road on the left.
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North End Village by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1905)
(2008)

[Tetramesh]

Just the one this time.

Rosemont Road
Rosemont Road as seen from the junction with Finchley Road.
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Rosemont Road by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1910)
(2008)

[Tetramesh]

I've been around Hampstead again.

Well Walk
Well Walk.
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Well Walk by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1907)
(2008)



Ye Olde White Bear
Ye Olde White Bear public house on Well Road.
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Ye Olde White Bear by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1904)
(2008)



Wells Tavern
The Wells Tavern public house on Well Walk.
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Wells Tavern by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1908)
(2008)



Hampstead High Street
Looking up Hampstead High Street near the junction with Gayton Road.
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High Street by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1902)
(2008)



Hampstead High Street
Hampstead High Street showing Prince Arthur Road joining on the right.
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High Street by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1902)
(2008)



Hampstead High Street
Hampstead High Street running parallel to Greenway.
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High Street by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1905)
(2008)



Flask Walk
Flask Walk with the corner of Boades Mews on the left.
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Flask Walk by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1905)
(2008)



Hampstead Green
Hampstead Green leading down to the Royal Free Hospital.
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Hampstead Green by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(1905)
(2008)



East Heath Road
Looking south along East Heath Road.
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East Heath Road by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1914)
(2008)



Finchley Road Station
Southbound platforms 3 and 4 at Finchley Road Underground station. Platform 3 is served by the Jubilee Line (formerly served by the Bakerloo Line) and platform 4 is served by the Metropolitan Line.
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Finchley Road Station by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1978)
(2008)



England's Lane
England's Lane near the corner of Chalcot Gardens.
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England's Lane by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1905)
(2008)



England's Lane
England's Lane seen from the junction with Primrose Hill Road.
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England's Lane by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1905)
(2008)



Swiss Cottage Tavern
The Swiss Cottage Tavern public house.
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Swiss Cottage Tavern by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1902)
(2008)



The Bull and Bush
The Bull and Bush public house on North End Way.
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The Bull and Bush by Tetramesh, on Flickr
(c.1912)
(2008)