UAE Aviation News and Discussion Thread (Part 2) - Page 76

noir-dresses · October 21st, 2009, 12:50 PM

Came across this, a little off topic, enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivjyb...om=PL&index=61

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gusqa...aynext_from=PL

luv2bebrown · October 21st, 2009, 02:28 PM

cargo plane crash in sharjah. 6 dead. RIP

Imre · October 21st, 2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv2bebrown

cargo plane crash in sharjah. 6 dead. RIP

The Sudanese registered plane veered sharply to the right after take-off and flipped before crashing.

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/em...rport-1.517425

RIP

zerozol · October 21st, 2009, 11:50 PM

'Plane was in air but nose would not lift' before it crashed in Sharjah

Expert says the crashed aircraft may have been overloaded

By Abbas Al Lawati, Staff Reporter, Gulf NewsPublished: 00:00 October 22, 2009

The crash call came around 3.30pm and the fire was put out in two hours.

Dubai: The pilot of the cargo plane that crashed in Sharjah on Wednesday is likely to have deliberately nosedived the plane away from a populated area when he realised that the aircraft could not be saved, said another pilot who witnessed the crash.

An Azza Airline Boeing 707 that was leased to Sudan Airways crashed on to a road close to the Sharjah airport on its way to Khartoum on Wednesday, killing all six people on board. Sudanese captain Mohammad Ali, a resident of Sharjah, was flying the plane.

Struggling

Ramsey Yaseen, the first officer of a commercial airline that flies out of Sharjah, said he was playing golf at Sharjah's Golf and Shooting Club when he realised that the pilot was struggling to take off.

"I noticed it and thought that he was not going to make it," said Yaseen. "I see this all the time with cargo planes. If they are heavy, it often takes the pilot a while to lift the nose of the plane to climb."

The plane was in the air but the nose would not lift, he said. According to Yaseen, the pilot then took a 15 to 20 degree turn to the right followed by "a severe turn" to approximately 90 degrees, with the left wing pointing upwards and the right wing pointing down.That led the plane to crash nose first onto the road.

"Since the nose was the first to hit the ground, it is impossible for the pilot to have survived," he said.

"I'm almost positive that the pilot decided to take the plane down there because he knew he was not going to make it. He wanted to prevent the plane from crashing into a populated area so he nosedived onto a quiet road," he said.

"There was an instant fireball, it was huge. Everything was destroyed. The flames went as high as 91 metres. We were around 274 metres away and could feel the heat, so we started running," he said. It only took "about seven to eight seconds" from the time the pilot lost control of the aircraft to the time it crashed, he said.

"The engine was everywhere. We even found two or three pieces of the plane on the golf course."

Ahmad Yaseen, 28, from Pakistan, said he noticed that the pilot was trying to save warehouses in the area.

"The plane took off in front of us but was not balanced in air. I don't think it was the pilot's fault, the plane was probably overloaded. However, I did notice that the pilot tried to save the warehouses which it could have crashed into, and veered it to the barren land on its right," he said.

Albert Dias, who works in Sharjah's SAIF zone, said he saw the crash from his office cafeteria. He reported seeing something "fall off" the plane.

"An aircraft with what appeared to be red and green striped livery took off and a dark grey panel about the size of a motorcycle appeared to have fallen off from the left part of the aircraft," he said.

"The aircraft then swerved gradually to the right and appeared to lose altitude before it was obscured by other buildings from where we were standing. About 10-15 seconds later all we heard was a faint thud followed by the plumes of smoke," he said.

With inputs from Huda Tabrez, Community Web Editor

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/em...arjah-1.517696

zerozol · October 21st, 2009, 11:51 PM

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zerozol · October 22nd, 2009, 12:01 AM

Sharjah air crash: How it happened

A Sudanese registered plane veered sharply to the right after take-off and flipped before crashing in Sharjah, killing six people. Here's a look at how the crash happened.
http://gulfnews.com/multimedia/graph...pened-1.517788

(Click on the link: on the image showing the major points of this short flight, move your mouse over the red numbers to see the aircrafts position!)

BinDubai · October 22nd, 2009, 03:29 AM

usually old air planes and saving costs in maintenance

very sad indeed

luv2bebrown · October 22nd, 2009, 06:31 AM

the pilot is a hero

BinDubai · October 22nd, 2009, 09:17 AM

indeed

RIP

Wannaberich · October 22nd, 2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerozol

Female pilot training breaks Emirati tradition

First women drivers now this.

Naz UK · October 22nd, 2009, 12:15 PM

A twat and sexist? Nice.

BinDubai · October 22nd, 2009, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wannaberich

First women drivers now this.

you are confusing two countries here.

it is not the an Emiraty issue.

besides being a pilot is totally different than driving and yes it does break the Society norms.

not against it, but not a big fan. They want to be pilots , the constitute protects their right.

but personal consequences are personal risks they would bare

Wannaberich · October 22nd, 2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naz UK

A twat and sexist? Nice.

Put those claws away you bitch.

Wannaberich · October 22nd, 2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinDubai

you are confusing two countries here.

it is not the an Emiraty issue.

besides being a pilot is totally different than driving and yes it does break the Society norms.

not against it, but not a big fan. They want to be pilots , the constitute protects their right.

but personal consequences are personal risks they would bare

JOKE:
n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal.
Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.

BinDubai · October 22nd, 2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wannaberich

JOKE:
n.
Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
A mischievous trick; a prank.
An amusing or ludicrous incident or situation.
Informal.
Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality: The accident was no joke.
An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock: His loud tie was the joke of the office.

i think you misread my post. we are talking about two different things

please read again and try to understand what i am talking about

noir-dresses · October 22nd, 2009, 03:56 PM

VIDEO: Sharjah 707 crash footage shows unexplained falling object

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ng-object.html

iownyou · October 22nd, 2009, 07:16 PM

Dubai records 19.5% traffic rise

Dubai International remains the only airport among the top 10 worldwide in terms of global passengers to show positive growth in every quarter this year. (EB FILE)

By

Staff Writer on Thursday, October 22, 2009

Dubai International recorded an increase of 19.5 per cent in passenger traffic in September, the highest monthly growth rate since October 2007 when numbers jumped 25.9 per cent, said the chief executive of the airports company.

It is also the fourth consecutive month of double-digit passenger traffic growth.

Paul Griffiths, CEO of Dubai Airports, said Dubai International remains the only airport among the top 10 worldwide in terms of international passengers to show positive growth in every quarter this year.

http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...4e99f14be.aspx

noir-dresses · October 22nd, 2009, 07:28 PM

that's a repost

Naz UK · October 22nd, 2009, 09:32 PM

I'm very suspicious of Dubai Airports' (or any UAE gov. departments' for that matter) official statistics - there's very little transparency or independent auditing, despite what you get told. I would like to see concrete evidence as to how in a global downturn of such magnitude as 2008/09, there figures are on the increase. There is clearly a noticable decline in tourism figures (according to hotels and their respective room rate discounts), we all know expats have left in their thousands and incoming figures are not as bouyant as last year - so who the hell are all these "extra" people who have entered the UAE - ghosts? As for transit figures, that too doesn't figure, since by its own admission, the article talks about Dubai bucking the trend of a global downturn in airport passenger numbers. So unless dead people have found a new favourite airport, i'm taking these figures with a pinch of salt.

luv2bebrown · October 25th, 2009, 06:34 AM

^well im sure tourism is down, but in terms of transit passengers, these articles clearly state the middle east is an oasis of growth in the global airline industry. there is a global downturn (shrinkage?), but here in the middle east, a downturn simply meant slowed growth. so to me those numbers sound about right.

in my opinion, the fact that there is no news about tourism figures means its not doing well. remember the whole 15million tourists a year by 2010/2015? we dont hear much about that anymore. the city is boasting about airport passenger news on the other hand, which leads me to believe these numbers are credible.

October 22nd, 2009, 03:29 AM	#1507
BinDubai بـــــ ـدبي ــــــــــن Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,452 Likes (Received): 0	usually old air planes and saving costs in maintenance very sad indeed __________________ "الحكومة ليست سلطة على الناس، ولكنها سلطة لخدمة الناس، لذلك فإن مقياس نجاح الحكومة هو رضا المتعاملين معها."" من أقوال سمو الشيخ محمد بن راشد ال مكتوم" المناعير

October 22nd, 2009, 09:17 AM	#1509
BinDubai بـــــ ـدبي ــــــــــن Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,452 Likes (Received): 0	indeed RIP __________________ "الحكومة ليست سلطة على الناس، ولكنها سلطة لخدمة الناس، لذلك فإن مقياس نجاح الحكومة هو رضا المتعاملين معها."" من أقوال سمو الشيخ محمد بن راشد ال مكتوم" المناعير

October 22nd, 2009, 12:15 PM	#1511
Naz UK Back in Blighty Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roswell, Area 51, Classified, United States of Americanisms. Posts: 4,201 Likes (Received): 0	A twat and sexist? Nice. __________________ If you only watch one online video this year, let it be this one: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...+century&hl=en

October 22nd, 2009, 09:32 PM	#1519
Naz UK Back in Blighty Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roswell, Area 51, Classified, United States of Americanisms. Posts: 4,201 Likes (Received): 0	I'm very suspicious of Dubai Airports' (or any UAE gov. departments' for that matter) official statistics - there's very little transparency or independent auditing, despite what you get told. I would like to see concrete evidence as to how in a global downturn of such magnitude as 2008/09, there figures are on the increase. There is clearly a noticable decline in tourism figures (according to hotels and their respective room rate discounts), we all know expats have left in their thousands and incoming figures are not as bouyant as last year - so who the hell are all these "extra" people who have entered the UAE - ghosts? As for transit figures, that too doesn't figure, since by its own admission, the article talks about Dubai bucking the trend of a global downturn in airport passenger numbers. So unless dead people have found a new favourite airport, i'm taking these figures with a pinch of salt. __________________ If you only watch one online video this year, let it be this one: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...+century&hl=en

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October 21st, 2009, 12:50 PM	#1501
noir-dresses bling bling Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto-Zagreb-Zrce-Dubai Posts: 3,376 Likes (Received): 4	Came across this, a little off topic, enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivjyb...om=PL&index=61 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gusqa...aynext_from=PL

October 21st, 2009, 02:28 PM	#1502
luv2bebrown Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Unknown Posts: 2,396 Likes (Received): 18	cargo plane crash in sharjah. 6 dead. RIP

October 21st, 2009, 11:50 PM	#1504
zerozol Honi soit qui mal y pense Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hungary, Europe Posts: 428 Likes (Received): 0	'Plane was in air but nose would not lift' before it crashed in Sharjah Expert says the crashed aircraft may have been overloaded By Abbas Al Lawati, Staff Reporter, Gulf NewsPublished: 00:00 October 22, 2009 The crash call came around 3.30pm and the fire was put out in two hours. Dubai: The pilot of the cargo plane that crashed in Sharjah on Wednesday is likely to have deliberately nosedived the plane away from a populated area when he realised that the aircraft could not be saved, said another pilot who witnessed the crash. An Azza Airline Boeing 707 that was leased to Sudan Airways crashed on to a road close to the Sharjah airport on its way to Khartoum on Wednesday, killing all six people on board. Sudanese captain Mohammad Ali, a resident of Sharjah, was flying the plane. Struggling Ramsey Yaseen, the first officer of a commercial airline that flies out of Sharjah, said he was playing golf at Sharjah's Golf and Shooting Club when he realised that the pilot was struggling to take off. "I noticed it and thought that he was not going to make it," said Yaseen. "I see this all the time with cargo planes. If they are heavy, it often takes the pilot a while to lift the nose of the plane to climb." The plane was in the air but the nose would not lift, he said. According to Yaseen, the pilot then took a 15 to 20 degree turn to the right followed by "a severe turn" to approximately 90 degrees, with the left wing pointing upwards and the right wing pointing down.That led the plane to crash nose first onto the road. "Since the nose was the first to hit the ground, it is impossible for the pilot to have survived," he said. "I'm almost positive that the pilot decided to take the plane down there because he knew he was not going to make it. He wanted to prevent the plane from crashing into a populated area so he nosedived onto a quiet road," he said. "There was an instant fireball, it was huge. Everything was destroyed. The flames went as high as 91 metres. We were around 274 metres away and could feel the heat, so we started running," he said. It only took "about seven to eight seconds" from the time the pilot lost control of the aircraft to the time it crashed, he said. "The engine was everywhere. We even found two or three pieces of the plane on the golf course." Ahmad Yaseen, 28, from Pakistan, said he noticed that the pilot was trying to save warehouses in the area. "The plane took off in front of us but was not balanced in air. I don't think it was the pilot's fault, the plane was probably overloaded. However, I did notice that the pilot tried to save the warehouses which it could have crashed into, and veered it to the barren land on its right," he said. Albert Dias, who works in Sharjah's SAIF zone, said he saw the crash from his office cafeteria. He reported seeing something "fall off" the plane. "An aircraft with what appeared to be red and green striped livery took off and a dark grey panel about the size of a motorcycle appeared to have fallen off from the left part of the aircraft," he said. "The aircraft then swerved gradually to the right and appeared to lose altitude before it was obscured by other buildings from where we were standing. About 10-15 seconds later all we heard was a faint thud followed by the plumes of smoke," he said. With inputs from Huda Tabrez, Community Web Editor http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/em...arjah-1.517696

October 21st, 2009, 11:51 PM	#1505
zerozol Honi soit qui mal y pense Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hungary, Europe Posts: 428 Likes (Received): 0	Image Credit: Oliver Clarke/Gulf News Image Credit: Ahmed Ramzan/Gulf News Image Credit: Oliver Clarke, Gulf News Image Credit: Oleg Vakushin/Gulf News reader Image Credit: Oliver Clark/Gulf News

October 22nd, 2009, 12:01 AM	#1506
zerozol Honi soit qui mal y pense Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Hungary, Europe Posts: 428 Likes (Received): 0	Sharjah air crash: How it happened A Sudanese registered plane veered sharply to the right after take-off and flipped before crashing in Sharjah, killing six people. Here's a look at how the crash happened. http://gulfnews.com/multimedia/graph...pened-1.517788 (Click on the link: on the image showing the major points of this short flight, move your mouse over the red numbers to see the aircrafts position!)

October 22nd, 2009, 06:31 AM	#1508
luv2bebrown Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Unknown Posts: 2,396 Likes (Received): 18	the pilot is a hero

October 22nd, 2009, 03:56 PM	#1516
noir-dresses bling bling Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto-Zagreb-Zrce-Dubai Posts: 3,376 Likes (Received): 4	VIDEO: Sharjah 707 crash footage shows unexplained falling object http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ng-object.html

October 22nd, 2009, 07:16 PM	#1517
iownyou Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: san francisco,dubai Posts: 705 Likes (Received): 0	Dubai records 19.5% traffic rise Dubai International remains the only airport among the top 10 worldwide in terms of global passengers to show positive growth in every quarter this year. (EB FILE) By Staff Writer on Thursday, October 22, 2009 Dubai International recorded an increase of 19.5 per cent in passenger traffic in September, the highest monthly growth rate since October 2007 when numbers jumped 25.9 per cent, said the chief executive of the airports company. It is also the fourth consecutive month of double-digit passenger traffic growth. Paul Griffiths, CEO of Dubai Airports, said Dubai International remains the only airport among the top 10 worldwide in terms of international passengers to show positive growth in every quarter this year. http://www.business24-7.ae/Articles/...4e99f14be.aspx

October 22nd, 2009, 07:28 PM	#1518
noir-dresses bling bling Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto-Zagreb-Zrce-Dubai Posts: 3,376 Likes (Received): 4	that's a repost

October 25th, 2009, 06:34 AM	#1520
luv2bebrown Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Unknown Posts: 2,396 Likes (Received): 18	^well im sure tourism is down, but in terms of transit passengers, these articles clearly state the middle east is an oasis of growth in the global airline industry. there is a global downturn (shrinkage?), but here in the middle east, a downturn simply meant slowed growth. so to me those numbers sound about right. in my opinion, the fact that there is no news about tourism figures means its not doing well. remember the whole 15million tourists a year by 2010/2015? we dont hear much about that anymore. the city is boasting about airport passenger news on the other hand, which leads me to believe these numbers are credible.