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Old December 7th, 2017, 02:40 AM   #2141
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Too much unsustainable retail space in this Moynihan Station/Manhattan West/Hudson Yards area IMHO. Its being designed by old, out of touch baby boomers ... who will be too old to shop at these places when they are finished in the first place. Meanwhile all the young people will be shopping at Amazon.com instead.

The area needs more museums and restaurants instead.
That's what makes New York alive and vibrant. Part of life is interaction in spaces like this, when the world becomes completely IT everyone will stay home and cities will become irrelevant. I have visited New York a few times and quite a few smaller US cities and find many of the smaller cities very sterile, or dead, no people walking about or interacting with shops and restaurants or museums. They drive to a mall or office at most...New York shows how a city can offer so much more. Amazon is opening up here in Australia at the moment even though we have had access via internet for years. I hope real life like New York offers...and my own city Melbourne continues for centuries.
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Old December 7th, 2017, 07:30 AM   #2142
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Too much unsustainable retail space in this Moynihan Station/Manhattan West/Hudson Yards area IMHO. Its being designed by old, out of touch baby boomers ... who will be too old to shop at these places when they are finished in the first place. Meanwhile all the young people will be shopping at Amazon.com instead.

The area needs more museums and restaurants instead.
I'm not sure why young people are always equated with being cool. I think many are a**holes.

Amazon is fantastic but it's not social. Developers and bricks and mortar operators are counting on the culture component to allow them to thrive in the era of easy online buying.
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Old December 7th, 2017, 11:42 PM   #2143
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Lol has he visited Manhattan lately? The place is bustling like crazy. Times Square, the High Line, and Chelsea Market all nearby and doing very well. I'm certain any retail here will be very successful.
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Old December 8th, 2017, 12:02 AM   #2144
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Ironically enough, Amazon is bringing 2,000 high-paying sales, finance, marketing and IT jobs to this complex with a 360,000-SF lease. And that's just one small piece of the huge amount of high-earning employees and residents that will be moving to the far west side. Not to mention the flood of tourists (increasing in number every year) that currently have no where to go after finishing the High Line.
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Old December 8th, 2017, 05:15 AM   #2145
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Lol has he visited Manhattan lately? The place is bustling like crazy. Times Square, the High Line, and Chelsea Market all nearby and doing very well. I'm certain any retail here will be very successful.
I go to Manhattan all the time ... never to shop ... Manhattan is full of stores that are only like 15% more "exclusive" than the same damn stores you find anywhere in the country (and I'm probably being generous with that 15%) ... its not worth it to shop in Manhattan. Its impossible to continue to enjoy New York City if you are constantly lugging shopping bags all over the place.

And anything "exclusive" at the bricks and mortar locations can generally be found online anyway and its more convenient.

These retail outlets are being eaten alive by online shopping. The "social" aspect of shopping isn't going to sustain them much longer.

Chelsea Market is full of food vendors ... I go there a lot to eat.

And I never go to Times Square ... its full of horrible tourists and tacky signs.
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Every time I visit I see big crowds on most streets and wall-to-wall retail on almost all avenues. Of course if they are targeting only high-end shops here it may be a bit dead but I highly doubt that's the plan here.
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And some photos of 5 Manhattan West:

I realize this is for One Manhattan West, but MAN!! I LOVE how modern and chic the redesigned 5 looks! Against its much taller brethren, I can't wait to see these new buildings in person (ideally for New Year's week so we shall see and I'll take lots of pics!!)

That entire area has changed a LOT since I was last there in June 2015 But getting to be inside 1WTC during its opening was an amazing experience I've looked forward to since seeing the current design and wishing it be built as-is (alas, a discussion for another thread).
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