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Old October 18th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #281
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They're not twins..The left one is still taller..Pay attention on perspective in that render..
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Old October 19th, 2011, 12:45 AM   #282
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They're not twins..The left one is still taller..Pay attention on perspective in that render..
So by what your saying the twin towers were not twins because they were not the same height. Even if theh aren't the same height, the height doesnt look dramatically different so i would class them as twins.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 05:58 AM   #283
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WTC had different heights. Were they not twin towers dino? :P
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Old October 19th, 2011, 07:31 AM   #284
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It sounds pretty likely from the reports that Brookfield is now going with two towers of 2 Million SF each. That points to about 60-65 floors on the tightly confined site. Hopefully, the towers will be 300 m+ each. Plus, if the market picks up and they can sign a big anchor tenant or two, the second tower could be larger and taller.

Fingers crossed!

Anyways, looks like they are going to use pre/post-tensioned slabs to span the rail lines, drawing from concrete bridge technology.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 10:21 AM   #285
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Well yeah, if the difference is not big, of course they're twins..But in this case, difference will be well above 10 floors..And don't forget that render is made from human perspective so the difference looks shorter than it is..Look:

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Old October 19th, 2011, 02:15 PM   #286
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Are you sure it just looks slightly smaller with the shapes of the buildings... One of them goes into a slant and the other doesnt at that angle.
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Old October 24th, 2011, 01:31 PM   #287
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You are right, both towers seem to be (almost) the same height since the right tower in that render slants back.
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Old October 25th, 2011, 04:35 PM   #288
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Old October 26th, 2011, 01:56 AM   #289
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In that render they might look twinish but the difference between them is going to be quite big. Even though the bigger one has only 6 floors more than the smaller one so it must have far taller floors. That is, if SSP diagrams are right

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Old October 26th, 2011, 02:15 AM   #290
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If i'm right, the design for this including the heights have been revised. Therefore making the SSP diagrams inaccurate.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 02:43 AM   #291
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Yeah, Kanto may have gotten his wish of twin towers in Manhattan. From the billboards around the site, it looks like the taller one got downsized so they'll both be about 935. But who knows at this point, they could change again.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 02:52 AM   #292
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^Lol I'm pretty sure he wanted 1216ft twins XD
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I'm still convinced that it's the same design and one is taller than other..
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Old October 26th, 2011, 09:14 AM   #294
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Brookfield's comments clearly indicate that they're not locked into any preconceived space allocation, and instead, they will build to suit their tenants' needs.
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Brookfield's comments clearly indicate that they're not locked into any preconceived space allocation, and instead, they will build to suit their tenants' needs.
At this point, I'd say that Brookfield is being prudent and that the first tower will not be the tallest, unless a major anchor tenant gets locked in soon. Once the market rebounds, they do have the option of using up additional FAR by building the second tower taller. If the market flattens out, they can build a similar second tower and split the remaining space among a third and fourth tower.
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I'm still convinced that it's the same design and one is taller than other..

Not quite, look at this

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Old October 26th, 2011, 02:32 PM   #297
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At this point, I'd say that Brookfield is being prudent and that the first tower will not be the tallest, unless a major anchor tenant gets locked in soon. Once the market rebounds, they do have the option of using up additional FAR by building the second tower taller. If the market flattens out, they can build a similar second tower and split the remaining space among a third and fourth tower.
They're not building anything until they have a tenant. Therefore, if Timer Warner needs 2.2m sf. Brookfield will build the first tower of that much size and likely bigger.
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I'm still convinced that it's the same design and one is taller than other..
Well, to my untrained eye it seems you are right. In the render the right tower is smaller than the left one, but to me it doesn't look as much smaller as the SSP diagrams says it should be
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Old October 26th, 2011, 05:15 PM   #299
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Not quite, look at this

Old (left) New (right)
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I don't know, I might be wrong, I don't claim I'm right, but I'll stay on my conclusion..

I took a couple of lessons from architectural drawing over the past few years, spent 4 years in architecture school before college, worked in AutoCAD, Sketchup, rendering software, and from what I know, this is just a point of view from which those buildings look like twins..

But I don't work in Brookfield, so I might be wrong..I guess we'll see..
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They're not building anything until they have a tenant. Therefore, if Timer Warner needs 2.2m sf. Brookfield will build the first tower of that much size and likely bigger.
You and I are saying the same thing. If they do land a whale of a tenant like TW or News Corp, you can bet your money quite safely that they will go maximum on the first tower to get the best value out of a project which has already been de-risked by the anchor.
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