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Old May 12th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #841
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They're now three tower, two of 60 floors and one of 57 according to SSP, might not see a supertall?
You know these towers will have high ceilings right? Right now I think of 4 other towers which have 60 floors and are over 300m.

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Old May 12th, 2013, 02:32 PM   #842
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They're now three tower, two of 60 floors and one of 57 according to SSP, might not see a supertall?
NY Guy at SSP is not an authority. Brookfield said in an article last week that the two office towers are not the same size. Also, by the time that these start construction, which likely will be several years from now, the current plans will probably change further.

Also, the model on display at the architecture exhibit shows 3 towers 0f vastly different sizes.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #843
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Also, the model on display at the architecture exhibit shows 3 towers 0f vastly different sizes.
I saw a picture but it was really difficult to tell. It looked like the taller Brookfield model was just as tall at HY North on their display?

And.... If Brookfield will have a supertall. Then the "Brookfield" site would have to be rated higher than a Mercedes C class Robert!! Should be more like an Audi S8.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 04:04 PM   #844
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Brookfield's project is a C-class because: (a) it's in a dumpy area.t's not on the new park/boulevard; (b) it lacks all of the fountains and green space that Related's project has; and (c) its retail will pale in comparison to the 1m sf of high-end space at the HY. I was being generous to Brookfield by calling it a C-Class to Related's Rolls.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 08:25 PM   #845
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Nothing in the Yards is going to beat Related's. They have the Highline wrapping around their huge lot leading towards the Hudson Riverpark and the Boulevard running right into their plaza area where the shed will be plus they have the shopping mall ala Time Warner. It is definitely the Rolls Royce of the area.

Your right about Brookfield being a bit dumpy but if the moynihan station ever gets developed they will be in a prime area also. They will have a nice plaza for entertaining as well but defnintely not up to par with Related's.

What i'm saying is... If Brookfiled builds a supertall you can't call it MB C class! That is entry level in the luxury market. Having a supertall plus two other towers betw. 700-900 ft, imo does not warrant entry level. It will be special in it's own way because of it. That is why i call the project the Audi S8 of the bunch.

If i had to rate other projects comparing to luxury sedans, then...

Related = Rolls Royce
Brookfiled = Audi S8 (supertall w/ some retail and across Moynihan Station if ever built)
One Hudson Yards = BMW 7( across from Related's and on the Boulevard & 7 Train access)
Girasole = MB S class (Supertall on the Boulevard and 7 train access)

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Old June 5th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #846
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Update:

An LR1400 w/ maxer wagon and 320' of main boom has been mobilized to the South side of the site to erect the TPP steel and the launching gantry crane.

The launching gantry is starting to arrive in containers at a marshaling yard ahead of delivery to site.

The TPP steel is currently being erected on site. It will be completed in weeks and the launching gantry should start going together by the end of the month.

First sections of capping beam have been completed on the South and North site.

Footings are starting to go in in the E-Yard on the south side of the site.
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Old June 19th, 2013, 07:43 PM   #847
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Another prospect for the Hudson Yards...

Sotheby’s auctions off its headquarters
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Going once, going twice, sold — and leased back.

At least that’s the plan, we’ve learned, for Sotheby’s current Upper East Side world headquarters. We hear investment sales gurus Douglas Harmon and Adam Spies of Eastdil Secured are marketing the building to possible buyers that would likely include hospitals that are clamoring for space, residential converters and developers, as well as office and hotel operators.

The striking glass and granite building at 1334 York Ave. takes up the entire eastern blockfront between East 71st and 72nd streets. In 2000, the 1921 structure was redesigned and modernized by architects Kohn Pederson Fox, with six large floors added at a cost of around $150 million.



With roughly 500,000 square feet on 10 giant floorplates, and some ceiling heights ranging up to 24 feet, the possibilities for the property are endless. A new buyer would likely incorporate retail stores into the scheme, even if it is knocked down for a taller and more slender condo tower.

The auction house initially rented the facility under a long-term lease that began in 1979. In 2009, Sotheby’s bought the building for $370 million. It was redesigned for its use and in 2003, the renovated building was sold. Sotheby’s signed a new lease with RFR, whose co-founder Aby Rosen is a big art collector.

Similar to Harmon and Spies’ billion dollar sale/leaseback of Sony’s 550 Madison and the nearly completed sale/leaseback of Time Warner’s offices, Sotheby’s plans to sell and lease back the facility until it finds, or perhaps develops, a new home. “They want to do a short-term leaseback between three and five years,” said one source.

Sotheby’s has hired Peter Riguardi, local head of Jones Lang LaSalle, and colleague Alexander Chudnoff to find it another location. That could include a more contemporary central Midtown or even Hudson Yards-area spot like the Manhattan West site that JLL is representing.

“Given the location of our building, the current real estate market, the unsolicited interest we’ve received in our property and our responsibility to our shareholders, we are exploring our options,” Sotheby’s spokesman Andrew Gully said.
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 09:28 PM   #848
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Brookfield Begins Rail Platform Construction



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As Time Warner nears a deal with Related Cos. to move its headquarters to Hudson Yards, Brookfield Office Properties has started major construction of a 120,000-square-foot deck over the Amtrak rail yard for its Manhattan West project.

Time Warner’s tentative plan to move to a new tower at Related’s site, first reported in the Wall Street Journal, would be momentous, allowing a second tower to go up that’s even larger than the one Related is building for Coach.

But, even before it lands a tenant or starts a building, Brookfield’s deck is meaningful too — the first platform over the yards between Ninth and Twelfth avenues after years of promises by both developers.

The photo above shows a just-completed temporary platform spanning the train yard from north to south on the Brookfield 5-acre site’s western edge adjacent to Dyer Avenue between West 31st and 33rd streets. Manhattan West lies slightly east of Related’s much larger site.

The temporary platform will support a “launcher” that will receive prefab concrete slabs from an adjacent staging area along the West 31st Street side. The slabs will then be assembled into 16 “bridges,” which the launcher will slide into place above the yard one at a time.

The deck is to be completed by the end of 2014.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 05:26 AM   #849
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Just saw that this is prep, and I don't know how I've missed it. I haven't been to this thread since 2012.

Great to see this is about to begin its journey to the skies!
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Old July 4th, 2013, 11:58 AM   #850
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The towers won't be built until tenants are secured. Only the plaform and the residential tower are proceeding at this point.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 01:46 PM   #851
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But the platform needs to be built first anyway, if I remember correctly?
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Old July 4th, 2013, 04:19 PM   #852
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The towers will be built on terra firma and could start today. Brookfield views the plaform, on which it will build a landscaped plaza, as an essential element since, in all practicality, a corporation won't want its HQ next to a multistory pit.

Even though Related's towers are now largely filled, I still think that it will be quite some time before Brookfield secures a tenant and actually builds office space here.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 05:21 PM   #853
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I would get a lot more excited about this project if they redesigned those boring towers. Maybe potential tenants would as well?

As for this projects location... its immediate surroundings are pretty rundown and desolate (I think its surrounded by a bunch of USPS facilities), however I have a feeling that will change as Hudson Yards gets going.
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Old July 4th, 2013, 06:10 PM   #854
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What we've seen now are largely place holders.

As for the neighborhood, I'd imagine that USPS eventually sells those blocks, or at least sells the air rights, which I would imagine are massive given their facilities are on enormous super blocks.

And I agree with your second statement in a broader context, this is not a particularly exciting development aesthetically to someone who doesn't know this neighborhood. But as NYers know, or anyone who's been in this area knows, it is a total dump, so hopefully this gets going soon, and with Related a block west, this stretch of 9th Ave starts to pick up steam and transform like the rest of the far west side, because this stretch of 9th has some enormous lots that are prime for redevelopment.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #855
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drawings for the NE tower foundation core are imminent.
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Old August 23rd, 2013, 02:40 AM   #856
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A view of one launch girder and accompanying "leg."

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Old August 23rd, 2013, 09:02 AM   #857
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That's the first time I've seen something resembling a construction photo on this thread, you good sir are awesome!
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Old August 23rd, 2013, 09:41 PM   #858
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That's the first time I've seen something resembling a construction photo on this thread, you good sir are awesome!
Well if it's construction photos you want, then construction photos you shall have!
This is taken from 31st and Dyer Ave, in my office building. You can see the launcher, unassembled launcher segments in the staging area, associated excavation on the north side of the tracks, and just a tiny glimpse of action down on the track level.

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Old August 24th, 2013, 12:42 AM   #859
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Thanks for posting. Please keep em coming!
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Old August 25th, 2013, 03:36 AM   #860
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Sorry about the glare and poor view. Had a great angle coming into the city but wasn't ready.



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